Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
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From: Fairbanks,Indiana
RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
Just finishing up 26G gear drive on 03 RK.All was good untill back lash on outter gears. checked at 4 points 90deg out and have .001 at12:00 .000 at 3:00 .001 at 6:00 .000 at 9:00. In side back lash was good and runout at pinion was .002. Since it is around 30 deg in my shop I am thinking when this thing warms up it will be tight. suspect I should get a under size pinion gear. Looks like alot of good "hands on" in this thread what do you think?
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Cruiser
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
I have a couple questions regarding the roller chain conversion:
[ol][*]My 2001 SE RG manual calls for (4) mounting bolts for the oil pump and (6) for the cam cam suppot plate for a total of (10) and all ar 1/4"-1". The 06 parts list calls for(8)1/4"-1" bolts. Are the other (2) boltsthe 942 part number that holds the tensioner? I can not tell from the Dyna manual.[*]Is the cam plate and oil pump bolt torque and pattern the same for the 06-07 vs the 99-06 cam plates?[*]Does my 01 SE RG have timken Torrington B-148 cam bearings?[*]I tried the part numbers to the HD-42314 (cam locking tool) and HD-42325 (Needle bearing R&R tool on the Zannoti site and can not get a price or listing. What is the price of these and where can I get the Jims eqivelent tools?[*]I will use the Quick-INstall HD pushrods. Do you pre-load these like you do on an car engine, i.e load them until there is turing resistance then another 1/4 turn and stop?[*]At 20K miles should I change the lifters too?[*]Is the crank busing in the new cam plate already sized, i.e. reamed?[/ol]
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[ol][*]My 2001 SE RG manual calls for (4) mounting bolts for the oil pump and (6) for the cam cam suppot plate for a total of (10) and all ar 1/4"-1". The 06 parts list calls for(8)1/4"-1" bolts. Are the other (2) boltsthe 942 part number that holds the tensioner? I can not tell from the Dyna manual.[*]Is the cam plate and oil pump bolt torque and pattern the same for the 06-07 vs the 99-06 cam plates?[*]Does my 01 SE RG have timken Torrington B-148 cam bearings?[*]I tried the part numbers to the HD-42314 (cam locking tool) and HD-42325 (Needle bearing R&R tool on the Zannoti site and can not get a price or listing. What is the price of these and where can I get the Jims eqivelent tools?[*]I will use the Quick-INstall HD pushrods. Do you pre-load these like you do on an car engine, i.e load them until there is turing resistance then another 1/4 turn and stop?[*]At 20K miles should I change the lifters too?[*]Is the crank busing in the new cam plate already sized, i.e. reamed?[/ol]
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Cruiser
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
read post 35 of this discussion on the previous page then click on the link that should answer most of your questions, except for is your 01 timken, the crank is, the cam bearing is not. I think the crank bushing in the plate is ready to install. to install the pushrods use the instructions that come with them. in the link I am talking about there is a section for the service manaul in pdf format and part list and part numbers that will help. I would change the lifters, I dont use the locking tool just put bike in 5th gear and hold rear brake
Cruiser
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
I had already downloaded the information which had helped but the re-installation section was not included unless I missed something. The bolting information was also not as clear as it is in my 2001 manual. Thanks for the other info.
Cruiser
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I have not recieved my parts manual yet for my 2001 SE RG and was wondering if someone can give me the stock part number of the lifters?Also, arethey any different than the 88 CU engine or did they use the same lifters in the88 and 95?
On a car it was always reccomended to change the lifters with the cam but is there a concern with the roller tip lifters? What is the life expectency of the HD lifters?
On a car it was always reccomended to change the lifters with the cam but is there a concern with the roller tip lifters? What is the life expectency of the HD lifters?
Cruiser
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
here is the list of parts and prices when I ordered the conversion, I got them from Zanottis, the 20 percent off really pays off when you do something big like this. here is the list
Item
Quantity
Price
26037-06
1
119.6
oil pump
25355-06
1
53.77
cam plate
4741A
10
5
screws
11461
1
1.1
25683-06
1
24.13
39969-06
1
24.13
25675-06
1
24.13
39968-06
1
24.13
25729-06
1
4.4
spacer
25731-06
1
4.4
spacer
25734-06
1
4.4
spacer
25736-06
1
4.4
spacer
25737-06
1
4.4
spacer
25738-06
1
4.4
spacer
25673-06
1
5
sprocket
25728-06
1
9.1
sprocket
40063-05A
1
78.43 auto primary adjuster
18538-99B
4
76.64 b lifters
17997-99A
1
109.85 adj push rods
54630-03A
1
34.2
suspension pump
The lifter number is 18538-99b you need 4 and the cost is 76.64 for the set
You can go to Zanottis web site and type in the numbers to see what they are, they are all parts for the conversion except for the last 4 parts, suspension pump, and automatic primary adjuster and adjustable pushrods and lifters.
Item
Quantity
Price
26037-06
1
119.6
oil pump
25355-06
1
53.77
cam plate
4741A
10
5
screws
11461
1
1.1
25683-06
1
24.13
39969-06
1
24.13
25675-06
1
24.13
39968-06
1
24.13
25729-06
1
4.4
spacer
25731-06
1
4.4
spacer
25734-06
1
4.4
spacer
25736-06
1
4.4
spacer
25737-06
1
4.4
spacer
25738-06
1
4.4
spacer
25673-06
1
5
sprocket
25728-06
1
9.1
sprocket
40063-05A
1
78.43 auto primary adjuster
18538-99B
4
76.64 b lifters
17997-99A
1
109.85 adj push rods
54630-03A
1
34.2
suspension pump
The lifter number is 18538-99b you need 4 and the cost is 76.64 for the set
You can go to Zanottis web site and type in the numbers to see what they are, they are all parts for the conversion except for the last 4 parts, suspension pump, and automatic primary adjuster and adjustable pushrods and lifters.
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Road Master
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
There is a nice gain in oil pressure (& scavenging) w/the new pump, but it isn't a direct replacement for the old style.
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
Will the "Baisley" oil pump spring available from Latus H-D fit in the late model cam plate? Is it an improvement with the new oil pump or is it needed?
Cruiser
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RE: Anybody Here Done The Conversion?
I asked this same question a while back on HTT and the concensus was that with the new hi volume oil pump you are using in the conversion that it is not needed but i supposed you could still put it in if you wanted but not necessary Todd