Will this mean that this part is consistent with the markings that we found on the frame so it has been probably produced sometime from 41 and 43? This will be a good point to “prove” to Italian authorities for historical vehicles that the frame is datable in those years so the bike (although not married in the factory) can be dated 1943 as production year? If yes it will be a super boost for all the formalities I will have to pass trough before to be able to legally ride it on roads. Thanks again for the precious support!!!

 

You're welcome. Two-hole bracket for the clutch cable tube indicates 41–46.
Left axle clip die number 3 indicates 41 or maybe 42.
R-H axle clip die number 3 suggests 41 or 42.
Steering head die number (if 6) indicates 42.
Therefore I think the frame may be a 42 model.

The crankcases suggest the engine is a 43 model but the authorities may not accept the BNs as proof of that. Instead they may want an authentic Harley engine number but there isn’t one. And we still don’t know for certain when that engine was first used in that frame.
Eric

 

Logic may not apply to the Italian government but I would think the date stamped on the belly of the engine and casting dates would be enough to convince them its a 1943 model without getting into too much detail about the frame or anything else. You can provide other examples to them showing a belly number and a corresponding model year on the vin pads to help your case? Im under the assumption you're trying to get the bike titled as a 42 or 43 so the paper work matches as best it can to the year of the bike despite no vin?

 

Correct they are requesting me the year of production of the bike and a proof of it.

 

In the USA for that vintage MC, the only numbers they will look at are on the motor, no one checks the frame. Following that logic, you can prove production year of the motor and therefore the bike.

Good luck explaining that at DMV, but that would be my story.

 

Exactly, they know nothing and the more you tell them the deeper the hole you dig. Show them the dates on the engine and play dumb.

 

"Sono solo un meccanico stupido"

 

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