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Old Mar 19, 2022 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hellonewman
Not all die number will be in his charts for a variety of reasons so you have to use your judgement. One of my axle clips on my 48 has a die number that falls into a gap in Palmers numbers. In your case looking at the die number range for the left clip I would guess yours is in the 41 or 42 model year. Check out the other die numbers on your frame and compare to the chart, that will narrow down the year.
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Old Mar 19, 2022 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
Leave it as it is the paper work is from 1964 if you let them know something is up you will loose the ability to own it in Italy

its pre computer they wont have what went on and dont care at this point unless you make them look into it
Yes. In other words play dumb.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2022 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gian15
Hi here the marking on axle clip. What are they telling?




no markings on the top of the frame.

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On the R-H axle clip, forging number SE-6T is correct although it was introduced before 1941. Forging die number 3 apparently indicates 1941–42. The forging hallmark isn’t Y but is instead M over F inside a circle which represents Modern Drop Forge, the maker of that axle clip.

Outside the left axle clip you may find forging number SE-7T, hallmark M over F and a die number. What is the die number? Photo?

What markings are on the left side of the steering head? Photo?
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Old Mar 20, 2022 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe12RK
Yes. In other words play dumb.
Got it! Thanks everyone for all the precious infos !!
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 03:55 AM
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Hi Eric,

LH axle clip shows SE-7T and a number 3

Steering head report ZE-35T (36T?...to the mechanic where the bike is it appears a 36T)... I'm 60 miles from him and he's not "able" to get a better picture. To me it seems a 35T

Have a nice one.

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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 06:34 AM
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Need to get a better pic of the neck number. Yes its a 35T but the number beside the "A in a jar" narrows down the year. Guessing, it looks like a 6 but that doesn't jive so much with the axle clips being a 3. Get a better angle of that area.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 06:51 AM
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I would keep a copy of the original paper work you have so you can confirm what ever went on with numbers Italy may have insisted on in 1964

would not be a thing today - just like the string on packages - who thought that was a good idea < maybe the same guy
 
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Thanks for the photos. Steering head forging number is probably ZE-35T (not 36T). Forging hallmark which looks like A in a jar represents AmForge. Hard to be certain about the die number but I agree it could be 6 which was one of at least four die numbers used for 1942.

Left clip forging number SE-7T is correct. Below the axle is hallmark M over F inside a circle. Die number 3 was used for at least 1941 so maybe it was also used for 1942?
And remember your R-H clip also has die number 3 which apparently indicates 1941–42.
At this stage the combination of the axle clips and steering head suggest to me that your frame may be a 1942 model.

Can you post a photo of this section please. Thanks.


Engine number on HD 1943-pqhssnk.jpg


Getting back to that document, it was signed in 1964 and it indicates the bike was first registered in 1952. But in 1952, what model year was the bike registered as? Was it registered as a 1952 model or some other year?
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Speeding Big Twin
Thanks for the photos. Steering head forging number is probably ZE-35T (not 36T). Forging hallmark which looks like A in a jar represents AmForge. Hard to be certain about the die number but I agree it could be 6 which was one of at least four die numbers used for 1942.

Left clip forging number SE-7T is correct. Below the axle is hallmark M over F inside a circle. Die number 3 was used for at least 1941 so maybe it was also used for 1942?
And remember your R-H clip also has die number 3 which apparently indicates 1941–42.
At this stage the combination of the axle clips and steering head suggest to me that your frame may be a 1942 model.

Can you post a photo of this section please. Thanks.





Getting back to that document, it was signed in 1964 and it indicates the bike was first registered in 1952. But in 1952, what model year was the bike registered as? Was it registered as a 1952 model or some other year?
Eric
Hi here below the picture.

I do not have the old papers (besides the one from 1964 already posted) . At that time no model year was indicated at all the only info was the date of first registration of the Italian circulation permission that was from 1952.
In one formal document it was written that the Harley was made in England… this is telling you how knowledgeable they were at those times… 😁

 
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Old Mar 22, 2022 | 09:54 PM
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In your photo the clutch cable tube bracket is the type I’d expect. It is the two-hole style used for 1941–46.

Also notice two unmachined bosses and these were apparently omitted as of 1949 or 1950 models.
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