CVO set up charge
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Called the dealer I bought my current bike from to get a quote on new '14 cvo breakout. Expected some addl fees but surprised to hear there was over $2000 worth with $435 freight and $1,565 in set up charges. I was a little blown away by the set up fees and was told cvo models have more to do out the crate to get it put together and running. Bought my current bike used so I didn't know what to expect wrt fees on a new bike.
He did say they would knock a $1,000 off the msrp. I've heard CVOs tend to move quicker but thought with '15s hitting showroom floors they might be more motivated to move the '14s. Any info on if or where there is and isn't room to maneuver would be appreciated. we're a ways apart right now and I'm prepared to make an offer but I may be just wasting my time. Maybe these bikes go at msrp and all fees incl and it is what it is.
He did say they would knock a $1,000 off the msrp. I've heard CVOs tend to move quicker but thought with '15s hitting showroom floors they might be more motivated to move the '14s. Any info on if or where there is and isn't room to maneuver would be appreciated. we're a ways apart right now and I'm prepared to make an offer but I may be just wasting my time. Maybe these bikes go at msrp and all fees incl and it is what it is.
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I've been at the dealership several times when they got new bikes in. They have never came in any kind of crate. They've all been hauled in an 18 wheeler, strapped down to metal pallets and the most the dealership has to do is remove the remaining straps from the frame that they cut, mount the windshield (if any), and remove the blue plastic clingon stuff used to protect critical areas. Adjust the mirrors and handlebars, double check critical fasteners, and add fluids and they are ready to go. Takes all of about 30-45 minutes. I've seen this done with everything from Ultras to Sportsters and that's from the truck to the customer. $2k is a lot for not much effort. In fact, when I got my 2011 RK, there was still some clear plastic protective stuff on some areas that I wound up taking off myself.
On another note, my dealer is closing out 2014s by offering no fees, paying the TT&L, and free 1k service.
On another note, my dealer is closing out 2014s by offering no fees, paying the TT&L, and free 1k service.
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From: indiana
Thanks. You're a big help. So before you buy a new car or lay down almost 30 grand for something, you don't want to have little more information in your hands, huh big shot? As Ron white says, "Perhaps next time you have a thought, let it go". Geeez.
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Just ignore that useless post. That setup fee is steep and a whole load of crap.
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From: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
I would try that 1 time and see if they'll budge. Maybe even go home and see if they call. If they don't, go back.
Oh, I know it's hard though when you want a new shiny bike and it's sitting right there. I know I could have gotten a better deal if I negotiated more. But do what you can to the point where you feel content.
A true "Good deal" is one which you feel happy with your purchase. It's different for everyone.
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From: Rolla
Yeah, just tell them "Nah, no thanks guys. Thanks for all your help but I'm not feeling like it's a good deal". Shake their hand, be nice, and just walk out. If there's room to move, they'll call you back and move. If they don't want to, because they think they'll sell it for full boat, then they'll say "Okay bud well let us know if you change your mind". And that's it. Part ways.
I would try that 1 time and see if they'll budge. Maybe even go home and see if they call. If they don't, go back.
I would try that 1 time and see if they'll budge. Maybe even go home and see if they call. If they don't, go back.
He will then hold pretty firm on his price.
You are probably not going to have much luck in talking him into going any lower.
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From: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Yeah, that's what I was hinting. If he goes home and they don't call and beg him to come back at a reduced price, then he has to decide if he wants that bike bad enough to pay the amount they were asking. If he's then okay with it, then he can go back and buy it.
When I got home with my bike, you know I actually called them back and told them I wanted to take it back and claim "buyer's remorse" after those dealer fees 'sunk in'?
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More like "Cornholed Very Often". You're already paying 5 grand more than the bike is worth for a CVO. A 2 dollar ***** paint job,some rims,and a little bling,plus a warmed over motor. And and then you gotta' spring for the purple velvet waist coat and fedora,to complete the ensemble. If he's taking a grand off,it's because he already jacked the price two grand. The fact that the model is outa' here,just means the rapin' is unlimited.
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An update if anyone's interested. My offer was just accepted and it's a done deal. Here's what you may find interesting and showed me how things are different dealer to dealer.
As I mentioned above, one took a grand off msrp and quoted about 2k worth of fees. 3 other dealers had CVOs but 2 sold at separate dealerships Sunday and yesterday. The third had one similar to the one I recd a price on. While I was on the way to the airport yesterday I called the other place and asked for an OTD cash price. 3 grand less than the price in hand for the exact same bike.
So, I stopped by the place who gave me the original which is the dealer I bought my '13 from mainly to see the silver/black color. Sales mgr asked if I was ready to buy and I said matter of fact yes. But, just not his unless he could beat the other guy by a fair amount as I felt the other guy wanted my business a little more. He said he could sell his and many more all day long at the price he quoted. I said fair enough, your choice so we parted ways. Funny but he said he was positive he had the only CVO left in the state until I showed him the one I had a price in from a place about an hour away.
Hard to say if the 3 grand difference is all off the msrp, and what the real deal is on the fees but it doesn't matter as it's a shell game. It is interesting to see how things vary across dealers.
Appreciate all the helpful input. This is my first new harley. Now I need to figure out how best to go about selling my current bike...with after market stuff or back to stock, craigslist, use bike website, etc. I'll start a thread and see what I can learn. Thanks again.
As I mentioned above, one took a grand off msrp and quoted about 2k worth of fees. 3 other dealers had CVOs but 2 sold at separate dealerships Sunday and yesterday. The third had one similar to the one I recd a price on. While I was on the way to the airport yesterday I called the other place and asked for an OTD cash price. 3 grand less than the price in hand for the exact same bike.
So, I stopped by the place who gave me the original which is the dealer I bought my '13 from mainly to see the silver/black color. Sales mgr asked if I was ready to buy and I said matter of fact yes. But, just not his unless he could beat the other guy by a fair amount as I felt the other guy wanted my business a little more. He said he could sell his and many more all day long at the price he quoted. I said fair enough, your choice so we parted ways. Funny but he said he was positive he had the only CVO left in the state until I showed him the one I had a price in from a place about an hour away.
Hard to say if the 3 grand difference is all off the msrp, and what the real deal is on the fees but it doesn't matter as it's a shell game. It is interesting to see how things vary across dealers.
Appreciate all the helpful input. This is my first new harley. Now I need to figure out how best to go about selling my current bike...with after market stuff or back to stock, craigslist, use bike website, etc. I'll start a thread and see what I can learn. Thanks again.