I dread the buying process.
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I dread the buying process.
Since I have gotten older (65) I have really come to dread the process one must go thru to buy a new car, truck, or motorcycle. I returned from bikeweek with the desire to get a new bike. I currently have a 2013 Road King and was thinking about doing some mods like lowering it and converting from solo to two up setup. Then I heard about the new Ultra Low bikes. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on the Road King then trade it in next year. After much thought I decided to engage two dealers that I have worked with in the past. Today I decided to start the price negotiating process. After figuring out what I wanted or expected to pay and the value of my trade, I ask them what they could do. Keep in mind they aren't aware of my expectations yet. We are miles apart and I am in for the biggest bunch of bs since my last colonoscopy. Dealer #1 wants $85 a month more than I was expecting. Dealer #2 said he wasn't sure he wanted my 2-1/2 year old RK with 5000 miles in on trade, he said he might give me $13000 trade, but when he told me he wanted $435 for freight and $650 for set up I lost interest. We didn't even get to what he wanted for the new bike. Here we go, I just hate this process. I barely have myself convinced I want this new bike, let alone convincing them that I will only pay a certain reasonable amount. I have the deal I want down on paper and will probably call them tomorrow and start the fight. They do this every day, and I would rather take 3 lashes than go thru this process. Maybe it is just old age setting in, oh well I'll let you know how it goes.
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Right on. They do it everyday but I've done it enough to know what they will come at me with before they do it. They're not clever.
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Several things you said make me want to tell you to reconsider your decision. You own a 2013 Roadking with only 5,000 miles, first red flag. Talking about monthly payments second red flag. The Road King is a great bike and will do anything you need it to do. If you want to lower it, not a problem. If you want a fairing, not a problem. Save all that money you will lose if you trade. Get on that Road King and ride !
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Funny, but when I first saw your post, the very first word in the paragraph I noticed was "colonoscopy" & knew instantly it was about some dealer bullshit charges.
That's why Dickey don't buy nothing new--buy lo mile mint condition used. THAT'S the way to go.
That's why Dickey don't buy nothing new--buy lo mile mint condition used. THAT'S the way to go.
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I know many people don't like this idea but have you considered a slightly used bike? There truly are people out there who have bought an Ultra or Limited and suddenly realized after only a few miles the bike just isn't for them. They get excited every time they see one go past, run out and buy one, then find out its not a Dyna. So they go back to the dealer and find they can only get 2/3's or less of what they paid for it just a couple of months ago.
Finding a bike with less than 3K miles on it for six or seven grand less than new is not as rare as one may think.
Finding a bike with less than 3K miles on it for six or seven grand less than new is not as rare as one may think.
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dribble, thanks for the advice. I like your point of view.
C908, First red flag, do you know how much it would cost to turn a red RK into a
Amber/charcoal Ultra. Second red flag, i could pay cash but prefer to
make payments on my toys. Third red flag, I buy Harley's because they
are supposed to hold their value. My problem is not affordability, it's
dealing w/ the bs sales crap. They don't call em stealerships for nothing.
Formula 223, Yes I am considering what you are suggesting. But since I am
Looking to trade I am back talking to people who can't be trusted
trying to buy a used machine that has been thru Gosh knows
what. And it doesn't help to know they probably stole it from
somebody.
Like I said, I want a new bike I just dread the process. Since I am practicing for tomorrow, notice I didn't say I needed a new bike. And C908 don't take my comments personally. I appreciate you trying to give somebody good advice, but it's not about the money. Like dribble said, it's all about winning. OMG, I am starting to sound like Charlie Sheen, thanks a lot dribble!
C908, First red flag, do you know how much it would cost to turn a red RK into a
Amber/charcoal Ultra. Second red flag, i could pay cash but prefer to
make payments on my toys. Third red flag, I buy Harley's because they
are supposed to hold their value. My problem is not affordability, it's
dealing w/ the bs sales crap. They don't call em stealerships for nothing.
Formula 223, Yes I am considering what you are suggesting. But since I am
Looking to trade I am back talking to people who can't be trusted
trying to buy a used machine that has been thru Gosh knows
what. And it doesn't help to know they probably stole it from
somebody.
Like I said, I want a new bike I just dread the process. Since I am practicing for tomorrow, notice I didn't say I needed a new bike. And C908 don't take my comments personally. I appreciate you trying to give somebody good advice, but it's not about the money. Like dribble said, it's all about winning. OMG, I am starting to sound like Charlie Sheen, thanks a lot dribble!
Last edited by Cjacks; Mar 31, 2015 at 09:46 PM.
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I usually figure out what number is fair ,to both parties, and give them an offer.
Then I ask if they can do better. If it doesn't work for me I walk.
Someone usually calls back. Oh yeah, wait till the last day of the month. Quotas, you know.
Bob
Then I ask if they can do better. If it doesn't work for me I walk.
Someone usually calls back. Oh yeah, wait till the last day of the month. Quotas, you know.
Bob
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Why do people make buying a new car, truck, motorcycle, etc. harder than it has to be?
The last 2 motorcycles I bought went like this:
ME: What is the lowest out the door price on this motorcycle?
DEALER: ______
If I didn't like it, I thanked them for their time and went out the door because I didn't want it bad enough.
The last 2 motorcycles I bought went like this:
ME: What is the lowest out the door price on this motorcycle?
DEALER: ______
If I didn't like it, I thanked them for their time and went out the door because I didn't want it bad enough.