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Perhaps it would be better for someone to pray for your bike from a distance and not mention it. I think they were trying to sell/push/indoctrinate something. Otherwise, why ask if they can pray. Private prayer is not intrusive on others.
Isn't there a sepration of Church and Bike.... oh wait, wrong discussion.
I think religion is reaching out as far as they can...all the way to bikers. Like I said before, believes and self consciousness should be a private matter...once it becomes public, IMO, it becomes a club...with membership fees, etc. All the church is looking for is a way to exist and in order to do that, it needs members. Those church bikers were looking for more members when they approached us...out fishing. And yes, it is better to have those guys than to have someone trying to rob you...but that is besides the point. The point is that it was intrusive...even if they asked. Sometimes someone can be intrusive with a simple question...loaded questions, that is!
They are the CMA's Christian Motorcyclists Association. They are good people out for a good cause.. If you have a bell hanging then what the heck why not..
If they had a big cross on their backs they weren't CMA. CMA colors are a set of praying hands on a Bible with a small cross on it, all centered in a triangular background with Christian Motorcyclists Association around the edge, with a sort-of top/bottom rocker with Riding for /the Son on them.
Yup, it was them...I do remember the parying hands now. IMO, freaky! I feel more comfortable with skulls, bones, flames, and freedom.
If it is Christian bikers laying hands on and praying over a motorcycle, I really don't know where that is supported in scripture. Maybe one of the CMA guys can point that out here or maybe start a thread about it on the Religious forum.
As a CMAer, whenI do "bike blessings"I pray for the safety of the rider, and that's as far as I go with it. I've never seen anyone laying hands on a bike in a religious way.
I s'pose actually praying for the bike might be akin to offering a prayer for the harvest, or something similar. That type of prayer could be considered scriptural.
In this neck of the woods the CMAers do a lot of service work at the big rallies. We'll do the registrations, have a hospitality tent with free coffee, water, etc., clean up around the rally site, possibly have a "kid's tent" (yeah, some people bring their younkers to a rally), and whatever else the rally organizers ask of us. The R.O.T. folks depend on CMA to provide services such as these, and give a pretty good donation back to the national organization. We'd do it without the donation, but it is surely appreciated.
I've not seen any CMAers ever try and force their beliefs, etc. on anyone. One of the mottos/sayings is Here if you need us. That attitude pretty much sums up the way we do business.
I like that "Here if you need us". I'm not being obtuse when I say, "glad you found something that works for you".
so what color was their patch now that you have me interested
was it a 1peice or a2peice or a 3peice with the top and bottom rockers
did they give you a card ?
did you let them do their blessing ?
were they respectfull to your answer ?
it could of been many of things but most likey they were trying to show a prospect how it was done as it is normally done only with one or two people not a whole group
they may have also been trying to use an open door to engage in conversation with you and share the word of God with another Biker
Being a Christian and also being a Biker is sometimes a hard job and there are many out there that screw it up for those that follow Protocal and respect to others
Can't recall the details on the patch. My point is: I will sit down and have a conversation with anyone...have a few beers or sodas or whatever...but religion and politics never ever come first. That is reserved for when you get to know the person later on in a relationship...and never ever intrusive.
The thought counts, that people you don't know, are concerned for your safety & well-being...
Kinda like here, isn't it?
I kind of appreciate it, regardless of whomever it comes from...
IMO, they are not genuine in their intention...there is always something behind it...trust me, I've experienced a diversity of religions in my time. Besides, if like you say they are concerned for my safety and well being...what the ???? I'm ridding an expensive bike so I'm obviously not hurting. If they are so concerned with safety and well being...I can think of a plethora of things they could better spend their time on...use that positive energy towards people that actually need help...homeless, kids, shall I go on... It's just a club like any other club, a bunch of people with similar likes/belives getting together to materialize their needs for a higher being.
Can't recall the details on the patch. My point is: I will sit down and have a conversation with anyone...have a few beers or sodas or whatever...but religion and politics never ever come first. That is reserved for when you get to know the person later on in a relationship...and never ever intrusive.
very good point
Telling you how good something tastes is not near as effective as you watching me eat it.
Most of the time you got to quit honking the horn and let your light shine.
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They are the CMA's Christian Motorcyclists Association. They are good people out for a good cause.. If you have a bell hanging then what the heck why not..
If they had a big cross on their backs they weren't CMA. CMA colors are a set of praying hands on a Bible with a small cross on it, all centered in a triangular background with Christian Motorcyclists Association around the edge, with a sort-of top/bottom rocker with Riding for / the Son on them.
If it is Christian bikers laying hands on and praying over a motorcycle, I really don't know where that is supported in scripture. Maybe one of the CMA guys can point that out here or maybe start a thread about it on the Religious forum.
I'm a CMAer and we don't "bless" the bike. Secular groups have kind of coined that phrase. You are right......laying hands on a bike is not supported in scripture, but prayer is. We pray that God would keep the bike running good and safe and we pray for the rider and his safety. If a person doesn't want us to do it we move on. Nothing wrong with asking. I just attended a "Blessing of the Bikes" event over the weekend put on by a secular group. There was at least 600 bikes there.
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