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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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I firmly believe that it's a bad thing when a post is made with good intentions and sometimes, somewhere along the line, that a few wrong words are said to spoil the initial meaning or intention of the post. I'm a man, at least the last time that I looked, and I wasn't born with a mechanical ability. I can so simple things, but that is all. I think that it is great when a woman learns to ride a bike, any bike, and is out having a good time, because that is what it is all about. I realize that being able to wrench on your own ride is important, but having fun is also important to me. Any woman that wants to ride a bike and enjoy what the rest of us enjoy, I would be happy to ride with, even if she out rode me, I wouldn't care. Enjoy the ride
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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JB, that's awesome about your wife. Tell her congrats from Texas!! And I say good job to you also because I've been the one standing in that parking lot watching and it takes a lot of patience and understanding to be there.
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 03:49 PM
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plenty of midlife crisis guys who've never ridden since they were teenage dirtbikers and had their cars dealer serviced their whole life think they can jump on a Road King or a custom chopper and not have problems. That's bull**** too.
I agree....

As I was growing up, I knew not one girl, NOT ONE, who was interested in motors, motorcycles, cars et, but almost all of my male friends were and spent all of their money buying mini-bikes, dirt bikes, hot rod cars and street bikes. This I believe helps keep us alive on our bikes.

Again: women have their strengths and men have their strengths both have weaknesses. GENERALLY SPEAKING, men take to motorcycles much better than women.

I'll say it again: Getting the wife a Harley for her first bike IS NUTS. A MC safety course in no way prepares her for the rigors of riding a big bike on the road. There are uncountable dangers that lurk around every turn. Last week there was a log in the road. I changed lanes to get around a car and almost ran into a piece of truck tire at 70mph. I ran into a swarm of bees last Spring and 70 hit me and my bike in a split second. My bike lost traction on a wet road stripe and the back end almost spun out. The list goes on and on....
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: dragsta

I agree....

As I was growing up, I knew not one girl, NOT ONE, who was interested in motors, motorcycles, cars et, but almost all of my male friends were and spent all of their money buying mini-bikes, dirt bikes, hot rod cars and street bikes.
That doesn't mean that there weren't plenty of women out there.

Again: women have their strengths and men have their strengths both have weaknesses. GENERALLY SPEAKING, men take to motorcycles much better than women.
Only because it's societal. The roles women had been delegated to in the motorcycle community (until recently) weren't very favorable to women, and, therefore, wouldn't have been as appealing. Would you want to be someone's property or be stereotyped immediately as a lesbian?

I'll say it again: Getting the wife a Harley for her first bike IS NUTS. A MC safety course in no way prepares her for the rigors of riding a big bike on the road. There are uncountable dangers that lurk around every turn. Last week there was a log in the road. I changed lanes to get around a car and almost ran into a piece of truck tire at 70mph. I ran into a swarm of bees last Spring and 70 hit me and my bike in a split second. My bike lost traction on a wet road stripe and the back end almost spun out. The list goes on and on....
That's your opinion and that's great. Don't get your wife a HD for her first bike. However, for every example that you throw out, there's a woman out there who will defy it. My wife was a Sergeant in the Marine Corps. She did everything that we males had to do and more because she was automatically stereotyped as weaker so she had the burden of proving herself as well. My wife is smart enough to know her own abilities and make her own decisions. After the MSF course, my Sporty was the first bike she rode and she handled it perfectly (even during the time in the parking lot). She doesn't like the Sportster because it's so top heavy. She wants a Low Rider; her choice. But to say that because she's a woman that she can't handle the stressful situations that riding a bike can put you in as well as a man is just asinine.

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A MC safety course in no way prepares her for the rigors of riding a big bike on the road.
It prepares her just as well as any man who's never ridden before. It gives a set of basic skills that practice and time will improve upon. No man ever got on a bike his first time and knew everything there was to know about riding. He acquires skills over time with practice too.
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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That doesn't mean that there weren't plenty of women out there.
"Plenty" doesn't mean diddly. I'm talking about percentages.

Saying that it's "societal" that men take to bikes more than women is politically correct crapoloa. Can't ANYBODY admit that there are REAL differences between men and women. Good God....

My wife was a Sergeant in the Marine Corps.
Your wife is the exception of which I ALREAD SPOKE. HOLY CRAP!!!!!!
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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"Plenty" doesn't mean diddly. I'm talking about percentages.
What percentages? Have you polled this recently? I'm sorry to say that your experiences as a young man noticing the world around you were probably not vast enough to encounter all of the woman/girls who might have enjoyed the same things you did. Just because they didn't around your house doesn't mean that they didn't period.

Saying that it's "societal" that men take to bikes more than women is politically correct crapoloa. Can't ANYBODY admit that there are REAL differences between men and women. Good God....
I'm more than ready to admit that men and women are different, physically, emotionally, etc. I just don't think that those things add up to men being innately better at riding motorcycles. NFL football, maybe; riding motorcycles, no.

Your wife is the exception of which I ALREAD SPOKE.
I think you'd find that women like my wife are now more the rule than the exception.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!
Come on...you had to know that views like yours would spark debate.
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Oh crap. I was wrong. I take back EVERYTHING that I said. lol

 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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12 Stones,

I am in total agreement with you here.

I grew up in a ranching community were women did equal work with men, including working on windmills, and all kinds of machinery, riding horses that would buck, kick, bite and anything else onery. They also branded, and worked cattle, and casturated all those LITTLE BULLS that just weren't good enough for breeding stock.

One of my grandmothers could trap, shoot, ride, and do anything else a man could do. She was also a nurse, and raised 5 kids while outworking most men.

One of my Grandmothers was a widow that raised 3 kids by being the washer woman in a mining and cattle town.

I worked with women while on the police department that carried their weight very well, and faced "uncountable, lurking dangers" every day. To think that women are not just as capable as men is absurd, and as far as I'm concerned, a personal insult to the women who ride.

I guess I feel the way I do because I had positive, capable women influencing my raising. Maybe if I had been raised by women and men that believed in "barefoot and pregnant" I would have a different outlook.

I look at the list of rigors that Dragsta has had to endure while riding, and I just wonder what there is in that list that a woman would be incapable or handling.

I think I'm done with this before I say how I really feel. Hopefully some others will chime in.

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Bill
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Hopefully some others will chime in.
Hopefully not, Bill. This is a subject that could easily turn to flaming. I think you and I have covered the bases on how wrong some observations can be, and for many who hold on to beliefs that disagree with what we've said...well, chances are their views can't be changed, or they probably would have already been.
 
Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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What do you people NOT understand about the words, "generally speaking"?
 



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