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Aug 28, 2015 | 04:13 PM

#31

ChickinOnaChain

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I've only scraped my foot peg once, going around a corner that had a dip, like for rain. It really surprised me. Other than that, I don't lean into a turn like I'm riding a sport bike.

Aug 28, 2015 | 07:02 PM

#32

vaxt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickinOnaChain

I've only scraped my foot peg once, going around a corner that had a dip, like for rain. It really surprised me. Other than that, I don't lean into a turn like I'm riding a sport bike.

Just for the record. A sport bike and a Harley, when ridden through a turn with the same body position and speed, will both require the same lean angle.

Your statement is a bit ambiguous, and this is a common misconception. That's why I'm pointing it out.

Aug 28, 2015 | 07:06 PM

#33

TwiZted Biker

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You haven't trashed some chrome or ground the heel off a boot your riding like a *****........

Aug 28, 2015 | 07:44 PM

#34

ynots

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vaxt

Please explain how wheel base, rake and trail has nothing to do with lean angle... I'm all ears

Aug 28, 2015 | 09:04 PM

#35

Jonesee

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Next In Line

On my sport bike, I am able to do well over 60 kph though a roundabout (38 mph).

On my Harley, I am scraping floorboards to the point that the rear wheel will lose traction anything over 20 kph (13 mph).

You have either modified your bike, or you don't know how to ride.

Last edited by Jonesee; Aug 28, 2015 at 09:06 PM.

Aug 28, 2015 | 09:14 PM

#36

upflying

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I ground my floor boards down to a knife edge when I was riding Road Kings. Just comes with the territory.

Aug 28, 2015 | 10:14 PM

#37

vaxt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ynots

Please explain how wheel base, rake and trail has nothing to do with lean angle... I'm all ears

Wheelbase: turning radius...this doesn't really matter in most turns beyond very low speed u-turns
Trail and rake: to put it simply, these are about straight line stability and how responsive a bike is to turn

I may be crazy, but there is a science to all this that is typically not discussed or understood by most people. There's a lot to read out there.

The bottom line is that on a typical corner it doesn't matter if you're on a mountain bike, a softail, or a superbike, if your speed, body position, and line are the same, you'll be at the same lean angle. That's just how single track vehicles work. There's no magic here, just science.

I'm all ears for a valid response explaining exactly why I'm incorrect.