starting a club...not easy...but why?
I have no use for bullies. The OP talked about forming a riding club based on a bunch of guys that went to grade school together. What could possibly be more harmless?
I also have no use for the frequent veiled and (occasionally) explicit threats of violence we see around here. Just more bullying to me. Threats like that do not impress me. It annoys me when I see people playing along with that out of fear or intimidation.
We live in a civilized country. Our country has laws. Beating someone up (or worse) because you do not like their clothing is not only petty, it is a criminal act. There is nothing noble, admirable or respectable about it. Such criminal conduct deserves nothing but condemnation, and those who perpetrate such acts deserve prison.
Club types like to talk about "give respect in order to get respect". They can start by respecting the laws of civilized society.
How many outlaw club's do you state your "feelings" to? How does that work out for you?
I have noticed you comment on every "club" thread on this forum the same way. It seems you lump every person who decides to wear a patch in the same category. It greatly shows your ignorance. You also speak as if your ideals change the way things are done and the way the world operates.
As was said earlier the "club scene" is a different world. If you want to play in it there are different rules. Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying it is that way.
Last edited by Sid1200; Oct 23, 2015 at 07:32 AM.
my bro a few years ago wanted to start a small club based of the name of a elemtary school we all went to.
Gonna get jackets with the logo and patches and just ride together for fun.
Few cluns were ok but one said if he tried theyd shut him down and not pleasant like.
is this normal? Were talking a for fun group og 8-10ish guys. Just curious if this is the norm.
dont wanna deck me out a jacket and get killed by another club...tnx MV
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The OP's pals wanted to start a club and were bullied into not doing so. Whoever it was that did the bullying is the one I have a beef with, and I won't play along with the "SOA" cult around here where we have to pretend to "respect" that sort of thing.
All this crap about "that's just the way it is" and "how does that work out for you" and "there are things you just don't do" cuts no ice with me. If some guys want to put together some pirate outfits and ride around, that's their business. Not mine. Not some "1% outlaw" club's.
As the earlier story in the thread shows (about the knucklehead in the bar who quickly backed down as soon as he realized he was out manned), bullies are cowards, first and foremost.
BTW, that brings to mind a story from the early '80's: Me and three friends, all of us students at the School of Mines, were drinking in this dive bar in Rapid City. We went there all the time for the cheap drinks. The place was always filled with 1% club types. Pretty rough looking bunch. We never bothered them, and they never bothered us. Like I said, I keep my business to myself.
Anyway, one night about a half dozen kids from the reservation blasted in, pulled out their nun-chucks, and quickly beat the crap out of at least 30 of the 1% guys. It was like a half dozen little Bruce Lee's going at it. These guys were maybe 15 or 16 years old. Tough little bastards. They knew how to fight, and even though they were severely out numbered (not to mention giving up about 100 lbs each to their opponents), the whole thing probably didn't last two minutes. Hell of a deal, that was.
If guys want to form clubs and do stuff together for the brotherhood and camaraderie, that's wonderful. I totally understand, respect and relate to that. If those same guys form a bunch of "rules" that they choose to live by, that's their business. Personally, I'm not into rules, so I have no interest in that sort of thing.
When those guys take it upon themselves to impose their rules on others using intimidation and threats of violence, that's when I have a problem. Threatening violence is a crime. Assaulting someone without legal provocation is a crime. I have no use for criminals. Or bullies. I obey the law, and expect others to do so as well.
Do you leave your bike outside at night, unlocked with the keys in it?
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The OP's pals wanted to start a club and were bullied into not doing so. Whoever it was that did the bullying is the one I have a beef with, and I won't play along with the "SOA" cult around here where we have to pretend to "respect" that sort of thing.
All this crap about "that's just the way it is" and "how does that work out for you" and "there are things you just don't do" cuts no ice with me. If some guys want to put together some pirate outfits and ride around, that's their business. Not mine. Not some "1% outlaw" club's.
As the earlier story in the thread shows (about the knucklehead in the bar who quickly backed down as soon as he realized he was out manned), bullies are cowards, first and foremost.
BTW, that brings to mind a story from the early '80's: Me and three friends, all of us students at the School of Mines, were drinking in this dive bar in Rapid City. We went there all the time for the cheap drinks. The place was always filled with 1% club types. Pretty rough looking bunch. We never bothered them, and they never bothered us. Like I said, I keep my business to myself.
Anyway, one night about a half dozen kids from the reservation blasted in, pulled out their nun-chucks, and quickly beat the crap out of at least 30 of the 1% guys. It was like a half dozen little Bruce Lee's going at it. These guys were maybe 15 or 16 years old. Tough little bastards. They knew how to fight, and even though they were severely out numbered (not to mention giving up about 100 lbs each to their opponents), the whole thing probably didn't last two minutes. Hell of a deal, that was.
If guys want to form clubs and do stuff together for the brotherhood and camaraderie, that's wonderful. I totally understand, respect and relate to that. If those same guys form a bunch of "rules" that they choose to live by, that's their business. Personally, I'm not into rules, so I have no interest in that sort of thing.
When those guys take it upon themselves to impose their rules on others using intimidation and threats of violence, that's when I have a problem. Threatening violence is a crime. Assaulting someone without legal provocation is a crime. I have no use for criminals. Or bullies. I obey the law, and expect others to do so as well.
Keeping your business to yourself....right on, I can appreciate that...HOWEVER...just because a portion of society does not abide by your expectations does not make it beneath you. This is the part I have a problem with.
I appreciate your outlook....but to knowingly dismiss a culture that has been around for decades...and takes care of their business internally....is wholeheartedly ignorant.
If someone chooses to enter that culture, then in reality they need to follow that cultures rules...it is not that hard to comprehend and I cannot for the life of me get why you are struggling with that.
Last edited by ChickinOnaChain; Oct 23, 2015 at 12:05 PM.
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