starting a club...not easy...but why?
Tourer
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From: Albuquerque New Mexico
Our WS Chapter wears a 3 piece set of patches but there isn't a reference to "Motorcycle Club" anywhere owing, quite obviously, to the fact that thats not what we are. We're Masons. We ride motorcycles together, among other things far more important. We coexist with a large "Motorcycle Club" who don't pay us any attention that I'm aware of.
A large organization of any kind is going to have its cadre of resident nitwits who get all carried away with themselves and their borrowed identities. We have em too, quite frankly, but they don't threaten people. Anyhow, I expect its very safe to assume that the people actually in charge of a large Motorcycle Club have bigger fish to fry than simply to administer to the wounded emotions of the few mental weaklings their organization will have inadvertently taken on. I further expect the MC "bigboys" wouldn't take kindly to one of their low order, self appointed patch gestapo drawing shitty attention to their entire organization by picking on a little bunch of social riders.
A large organization of any kind is going to have its cadre of resident nitwits who get all carried away with themselves and their borrowed identities. We have em too, quite frankly, but they don't threaten people. Anyhow, I expect its very safe to assume that the people actually in charge of a large Motorcycle Club have bigger fish to fry than simply to administer to the wounded emotions of the few mental weaklings their organization will have inadvertently taken on. I further expect the MC "bigboys" wouldn't take kindly to one of their low order, self appointed patch gestapo drawing shitty attention to their entire organization by picking on a little bunch of social riders.
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From: Great State of Canada
I found that was long as I am a nice enough guy to everyone I meet I rarely have any issues. I have had people, wearing a patch, ask me questions, but that's to be expected. I answer honestly and to the best of my ability. It almost seems as though they know my brotherhood doesn't conflict in the least with theirs, and so far I have had no issues.
Its an interesting coincidence how in a vaguely similar way we share a common image issue with some MC's. Conspiracy theorists assign all sorts of "World domination through secret handshake" attributes to the Craft, and I'll bet there are times when the MC's are quite amazed to read of their alleged activities too. Oh well, sometimes even BS is better than not being noticed at all.
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From: Aurora, CO
Must not be a serious riding group if you have a 2009 bike with roughly 5300 miles on it.
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From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Goose912 touched on it. Breaking it down to its simplest - An area's dominant club exerts some influence on new club formation because too many of the newbie outfits seem to be populated with guys who end up causing trouble for all clubs.
Simple as that, believe it or not.
Simple as that, believe it or not.
Was a total circus but great entertainment watching this wanna be dance and like you said one of the later ones was where all the oddball's and ******** landed eventually. Thankfully not many of those around anymore, stupid either killed them or got the gray bar motel treatment for them.
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From: Tennessee
one night about a half dozen kids from the reservation blasted in, pulled out their nun-chucks, and quickly beat the crap out of at least 30 of the 1% guys. It was like a half dozen little Bruce Lee's going at it. These guys were maybe 15 or 16 years old. Tough little bastards. They knew how to fight, and even though they were severely out numbered (not to mention giving up about 100 lbs each to their opponents), the whole thing probably didn't last two minutes. Hell of a deal, that was...
Cool story bro....
If you're gonna make up bullshit stories like that, at least try to make them slightly believable.
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From: SW Ohio
It took the Hells Angel in Red Deer a long minute to decide what he wanted to do. In the end he offered me his hand and invited me back to the club house; an offer I didn't take him up on. His name was "Bowie" as I remember.
I no longer belong to the club because they voted on a national level to remove the MC patch from the colors. This is something a Marine doesn't do; ask for permission as to what they can or can not safely wear.
There are some men on this forum who state plainly they won't ask for permission or a "by your leave" from anyone; I am one of those men. I won't wax on about how tough I am or how many conflicts I've been in. None of that matters in an internet forum. I've lived longer than I should have. I've survived world politics 101 in overseas lands in the service of my country and cancer twice. I've come too far to be impressed or intimidated by someone's else's unwritten rules.
This may well be my undoing one day, but it will not come without a cost.
Last edited by Campy Roadie; Oct 24, 2015 at 07:45 AM.
This is something a Marine doesn't do; ask for permission as to what they can or can not safely wear.
I've lived longer than I should have. I've survived world politics 101 in overseas lands in the service of my country and cancer twice. I've come too far to be impressed or intimidated by someone's else's unwritten rules.
I've lived longer than I should have. I've survived world politics 101 in overseas lands in the service of my country and cancer twice. I've come too far to be impressed or intimidated by someone's else's unwritten rules.
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You've no idea of what club life is about, other than some crap you've read somewhere, and now consider yourself swooft enough to tell others what it's all about. Morons like you are a dime-a-dozen and are the reason stupidity and ignorance just keep spreading.
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I'm not, and never have been, a part of the MC culture (1% or otherwise) and perhaps it's one of those 'if you have to ask you'll never understand' sort of things, but if being a part of a MC effectively limits who one can ride and associate with and places huge responsibilities for participation and all that, why would a rider have so much of a desire to subject himself to that? It seems like it's like becoming a monk, but with more booze and women!
Unless there's something to be gained by being a part of this or that MC, what is the motivation? Why would one want to be a patch holder in MC 'A' over MC 'B'? And especially if this or that club already has a reputation for violence or illegal activities, why would one seek them out and go through such a process to be a member? What benefit, other than the oft-spoken 'brotherhood', is there to being a member of an MC that will for all intents and purposes be your new family?
Like I said, I'm not in that circle and I only ask because I don't know.
Unless there's something to be gained by being a part of this or that MC, what is the motivation? Why would one want to be a patch holder in MC 'A' over MC 'B'? And especially if this or that club already has a reputation for violence or illegal activities, why would one seek them out and go through such a process to be a member? What benefit, other than the oft-spoken 'brotherhood', is there to being a member of an MC that will for all intents and purposes be your new family?
Like I said, I'm not in that circle and I only ask because I don't know.