Shotgun Shocks
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,427
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From: Home
I asked you exactly: "What exact experience, since you started riding or studding motorcycles and suspension, just how you know what your Softail's geometry is?" " I really wish you to explain this to everyone here to validate your claim to actually know what you are talking about. I as I am sure everyone here would like to know what we are reading is actually true from you? I will PM you to make sure that you receive an alert as to come back to this page and post your research and proof. This is your opportunity to enlighten all, including myself of information I do not possess. I believe the internet should contain useful information and not allow those who post falsely a platform to communicate to the masses. I, for one ,wish to read truthful & educational information and not waste my time on worthless drivel. I am really looking forward learning from you."
Your statement, being an Outstanding HDF member:
You give a two line post complaining about spam, I will & did post my PM to you. I will ask you the exact same question again (see aforementioned post). If you can shed any light on this subject, please do so. If you can not than the worst should be assumed, which is it? I put my time into making an informative post, please invest your time and teach us all. Thank you for your time. If you can not than everyone of us should call a spade a spade.
Which is it?
This is exactly my PM to you:
Education
Please go to your post & explain your statement: LINK:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/genera...l#post14568533
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Your statement, being an Outstanding HDF member:
You give a two line post complaining about spam, I will & did post my PM to you. I will ask you the exact same question again (see aforementioned post). If you can shed any light on this subject, please do so. If you can not than the worst should be assumed, which is it? I put my time into making an informative post, please invest your time and teach us all. Thank you for your time. If you can not than everyone of us should call a spade a spade.
Which is it?
This is exactly my PM to you:
Education Please go to your post & explain your statement: LINK:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/genera...l#post14568533
__________________
Howard Messner, www.motorcyclemetal.com
Phone #: 1-954-848-1525
~Contact via e-Mail~
use my own e-Mail: howard@motorcyclemetal.com
http://www.motorcyclemetal.com/contact.html
spam/
noun
noun: spam; noun: Spam
- 1.
irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to large numbers of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.
- unwanted or intrusive advertising on the Internet.
"an autogenerated spam website"
- unwanted or intrusive advertising on the Internet.
- 2.
trademark
a tinned meat product made mainly from ham.
verb
verb: spam; 3rd person present: spams; past tense: spammed; past participle: spammed; gerund or present participle: spamming
- 1.
send the same message indiscriminately to (a large numbers of Internet users).
Origin
1930s: apparently from sp(iced h)am . The Internet sense appears to derive from a sketch by the British Monty Python comedy group, set in a cafe in which every item on the menu includes spam.
Former Sponsor
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,360
Likes: 453
From: Davie, FL
Worthless drivel
drivˇel
ˈdrivəl/
noun
noun: drivel
verb: drivel; 3rd person present: drivels; past tense: drivelled; past participle: drivelled; gerund or present participle: drivelling; past tense: driveled; past participle: driveled; gerund or present participle: driveling
I have given you every chance to explain yourself concerning your post here. I was courteous to you twice and all you can answer with is about a notification about spam. Let me give you now a lesson on English and your (Next In Line) meaning on words. The PM I sent Next In Line was an alert done out of courtesy. You do not have the ability to explain the truthfulness of your statement nor do you have any sort of ability to qualify your statement. This means that you do not know what you are talking about.
I am not going to waste any more time on you because it is evident that every one of your 2,000+ posts and your ranking as an Outstanding Member can only be measured as numbers only, devoid of any sort of substance. Drivel. Every time in the future I see your post I will think there is that member, when he posts, it is hard to decipher if reading the content out loud, does it require talking or farting? You are a waste of bandwidth, I am done with you.
ˈdrivəl/
noun
noun: drivel
- 1.
silly nonsense.
"don't talk such drivel!"
synonyms:nonsense, twaddle, claptrap, balderdash, gibberish, rubbish, mumbo jumbo, garbage; Moreinformalpoppycock, piffle, tripe, bull, hogwash, baloney, codswallop, flapdoodle, jive, guff, bushwa;
informal,tommyrot, bunkum;
vulgar slangcrapola, verbal diarrhea
"he was talking complete drivel"
verb: drivel; 3rd person present: drivels; past tense: drivelled; past participle: drivelled; gerund or present participle: drivelling; past tense: driveled; past participle: driveled; gerund or present participle: driveling
- 1.
talk nonsense.
"he was driveling on about the glory days"
synonyms:talk nonsense, talk rubbish, babble, ramble, gibber, blather, prattle, gabble, waffle "you always drivel on"
I have given you every chance to explain yourself concerning your post here. I was courteous to you twice and all you can answer with is about a notification about spam. Let me give you now a lesson on English and your (Next In Line) meaning on words. The PM I sent Next In Line was an alert done out of courtesy. You do not have the ability to explain the truthfulness of your statement nor do you have any sort of ability to qualify your statement. This means that you do not know what you are talking about.
I am not going to waste any more time on you because it is evident that every one of your 2,000+ posts and your ranking as an Outstanding Member can only be measured as numbers only, devoid of any sort of substance. Drivel. Every time in the future I see your post I will think there is that member, when he posts, it is hard to decipher if reading the content out loud, does it require talking or farting? You are a waste of bandwidth, I am done with you.
Last edited by FastHarley; Nov 13, 2015 at 07:59 AM.
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 164
From: Home
drivˇel
ˈdrivəl/
noun
noun: drivel
verb: drivel; 3rd person present: drivels; past tense: drivelled; past participle: drivelled; gerund or present participle: drivelling; past tense: driveled; past participle: driveled; gerund or present participle: driveling
I have given you every chance to explain yourself concerning your post here. I was courteous to you twice and all you can answer with is about a notification about spam. Let me give you now a lesson on English and your (Next In Line) meaning on words. The PM I sent Next In Line was an alert done out of courtesy. You do not have the ability to explain the truthfulness of your statement nor do you have any sort of ability to qualify your statement. This means that you do not know what you are talking about.
I am not going to waste any more time on you because it is evident that every one of your 2,000+ posts and your ranking as an Outstanding Member can only be measured as numbers only, devoid of any sort of substance. Drivel. Every time in the future I see your post I will think there is that member, when he posts, it is hard to decipher if reading the content out loud, does it require talking or farting? You are a waste of bandwidth, I am done with you.
ˈdrivəl/
noun
noun: drivel
- 1.
silly nonsense.
"don't talk such drivel!"
synonyms:nonsense, twaddle, claptrap, balderdash, gibberish, rubbish, mumbo jumbo, garbage; Moreinformalpoppycock, piffle, tripe, bull, hogwash, baloney, codswallop, flapdoodle, jive, guff, bushwa;
informal,tommyrot, bunkum;
vulgar slangcrapola, verbal diarrhea
"he was talking complete drivel"
verb: drivel; 3rd person present: drivels; past tense: drivelled; past participle: drivelled; gerund or present participle: drivelling; past tense: driveled; past participle: driveled; gerund or present participle: driveling
- 1.
talk nonsense.
"he was driveling on about the glory days"
synonyms:talk nonsense, talk rubbish, babble, ramble, gibber, blather, prattle, gabble, waffle "you always drivel on"
I have given you every chance to explain yourself concerning your post here. I was courteous to you twice and all you can answer with is about a notification about spam. Let me give you now a lesson on English and your (Next In Line) meaning on words. The PM I sent Next In Line was an alert done out of courtesy. You do not have the ability to explain the truthfulness of your statement nor do you have any sort of ability to qualify your statement. This means that you do not know what you are talking about.
I am not going to waste any more time on you because it is evident that every one of your 2,000+ posts and your ranking as an Outstanding Member can only be measured as numbers only, devoid of any sort of substance. Drivel. Every time in the future I see your post I will think there is that member, when he posts, it is hard to decipher if reading the content out loud, does it require talking or farting? You are a waste of bandwidth, I am done with you.
I will ask again:
When was the last time you had your Softail with Ohlins suspension on the track and kept up with the sport bikes?
Unofficial HDF Chaplain
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 21,160
Likes: 18,083
From: san diego
air adjustable shocks, such as custom cycle controls, or shotgun, are mainly for one thing, and that is lowering your bike way down when it is standing still. ride quality is sacrificed, handling is sacrificed. Anybody who puts these on and thinks their bike is going to ride better, or handle better is fooling themselves. Its all about how good it looks in front of the bar, and I'm ok with that, but just realize what you are buying. they aren't a superior shock, over others mentioned here. And for the argument going on, I don't think a softail and a sport bike are even in the same category for comparing handling
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,719
Likes: 60
From: Los Angeles
air adjustable shocks, such as custom cycle controls, or shotgun, are mainly for one thing, and that is lowering your bike way down when it is standing still. ride quality is sacrificed, handling is sacrificed. Anybody who puts these on and thinks their bike is going to ride better, or handle better is fooling themselves. Its all about how good it looks in front of the bar, and I'm ok with that, but just realize what you are buying. they aren't a superior shock, over others mentioned here. And for the argument going on, I don't think a softail and a sport bike are even in the same category for comparing handling
But what you posted is complete BS. Have you rode on a SS compared to stock?
Unofficial HDF Chaplain
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 21,160
Likes: 18,083
From: san diego
yes I have and I found little difference, I also rode custom cycle controls that control rebound similarly. I give you that rebound seemed better but overall ride quality, seemed to me to be very close. I haven't ridden shotguns for long rides, but I see them as little else than dropping the ride height. I had CCC on one of my bikes, and I thought it was ok ride wise, nothing great but it did drop the bike a lot and without having the external comp. I believe a good shock system under there is a much better deal. And I didn't take your comment personally, No problem!!
I do know that the guys who run the SS love them, and are very serious about them. I appreciate that. I wasn't as sold on them. If you feel the system adds to ride quality, then I believe you. I just never saw the attraction to it. The CCC system was better suited for me as I was building a custom bike and I didn't need to try to hide the compressor, (was built into the shock block)
I do know that the guys who run the SS love them, and are very serious about them. I appreciate that. I wasn't as sold on them. If you feel the system adds to ride quality, then I believe you. I just never saw the attraction to it. The CCC system was better suited for me as I was building a custom bike and I didn't need to try to hide the compressor, (was built into the shock block)
Last edited by harleycharlie1992; Nov 13, 2015 at 01:09 PM.
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Joe Kucinski
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Joined: May 2013
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 164
From: Home
air adjustable shocks, such as custom cycle controls, or shotgun, are mainly for one thing, and that is lowering your bike way down when it is standing still. ride quality is sacrificed, handling is sacrificed. Anybody who puts these on and thinks their bike is going to ride better, or handle better is fooling themselves. Its all about how good it looks in front of the bar, and I'm ok with that, but just realize what you are buying. they aren't a superior shock, over others mentioned here. And for the argument going on, I don't think a softail and a sport bike are even in the same category for comparing handling
For myself, it was all about having the ability to adjust the comfort level depending on how tolerable the chronic back pain is for the day.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,541
Likes: 412
From: Studio City, CA via Rochester, NY
air adjustable shocks, such as custom cycle controls, or shotgun, are mainly for one thing, and that is lowering your bike way down when it is standing still. ride quality is sacrificed, handling is sacrificed. Anybody who puts these on and thinks their bike is going to ride better, or handle better is fooling themselves. Its all about how good it looks in front of the bar, and I'm ok with that, but just realize what you are buying. they aren't a superior shock, over others mentioned here. And for the argument going on, I don't think a softail and a sport bike are even in the same category for comparing handling