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Dec 30, 2015 | 03:30 PM

#61

Jrsess

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Dec 30, 2015 | 06:35 PM

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I would prefer to have the option of a helmet or no helmet but i would choose to wear one anyways.
I wear a seat belt but wish it was a choice and not a law.

Dec 30, 2015 | 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by norton

You are describing two worst case scenarios. What about all the taxpayer money spent on people on oxygen because they couldn't quit smoking, the people on all kinds of meds for obesity, type 2 diabetes, because they couldn't quit eating? I'm sure it dwarfs the cycle riders you are describing but nobody complains about that.

That is because a lot of people are addicted to smoking so they can't/won't stop. Everybody, at least as best they can, eats. Since most people don't ride, and wouldn't consider riding, a motorcycle the expense of injuries to motorcycle riders is an entirely different thing.

Dec 30, 2015 | 10:29 PM

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rjg883c:Think about it. If the study was of average daily hospital costs for injured riders compared to the average daily hospital costs of car drivers then neither is for dead operators it is the cost for the living and the condition that they are in which would include the paralyzed.

Dec 30, 2015 | 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lh4x4

I have said this for years, fatalities are irrelevant. It is the people that 'live' on and on at a reduced capacity that will affect the perception of society regarding activities that need 'protection'.

And why I posted "the expense of injuries to motorcycle riders is an entirely different thing".

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Dec 30, 2015 | 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sixguns

I personally do not care about anyone but me and my Family,least of all what type of helmet you wear or don't wear. I do personally care about another man telling me how to live my life, especially when it comes to my riding. There are many folks with the position that another persons not wearing a helmet somehow costs them money,we have heard this numerous times on this forum.

Interesting read in the new issue of American Iron,"The facts speak for themselves.It's just not true that motorcycle riders afforded the freedom of choice when it comes to using helmets have created any negative effects on the cost of anything."

That article was proof that figures don't lie, but liars figure. I don't care if anyone wears a helmet or not, their choice. But, claiming that states with helmet laws have higher insurance rates because helmet wearers have higher inpatient hospital costs is BS. To quote the author ""Riders wearing helmets don't adversely affect hospital rates and insurance costs. In fact, the opposite is true" He is using the average cost of ALL vehicle insurance ($1582 per year vs $$1451 per year) to support his hypothesis. Insurance costs are based on the number of claims paid out of all kinds and they are always higher in heavily populated areas. The only large state with a modified helmet law is Texas. There are only 2 states that have no helmet law for any age rider. All the West coast and all but 2 states on the East coast have mandatory helmet laws for all riders.. The author made the numbers say what he wanted.
http://www.bikersrights.com/states/50state.html

And let me add that I pay by credit card, put my gas cap on the seat when refueling and run Syn3 oil

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Dec 31, 2015 | 12:50 AM

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Your grammar so bad, I got a headache reading it.

Dec 31, 2015 | 01:28 AM

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How about this? Wearing a helmet could save your life.

Cheaper polycarbonate helmets seem to do better in average daily driving speeds than the more expensive snell rated lids. So, a 30 dollar helmet might be a better choice than a 200 dollar one.

Helmets have gotten way better since the helmet law was repealed here in 2000. Maybe because they know they have to compete for our business, and also, make it right so people will actually wear them. So, repealing the helmet law was the best thing that could have happened to us.

PS - I never looked at another rider who was riding with a DOT lid and said to myself, man, that guy looks like Kazoo. When I look at myself in the mirror, maybe. It's your choice to wear or not in free states. But there's no denying that they do work, for the most part.

A Helmet can save your life. No guarantees. No guarantee you'll get hurt or die without one, either. Choose wisely.