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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Why not leave it on, if it never activates, you won't notice a thing. If it does, you can then decide if you like the way it runs, and you can always toggle it off.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 09:45 AM
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the system sucks on the new bikes, it activates at 80 degrees air temp. the older system worked much better, it use head temps.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LudemJo
I have mine turned on, but it never activates because of the Wards fans I have on the bike. This was proof positive that the fans are doing their job.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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the system sucks on the new bikes, it activates at 80 degrees air temp. the older system worked much better, it use head temps.
You sure about this? I have already ridden in some hot weather this year, and it does not always activate.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LudemJo
I have mine turned on, but it never activates because of the Wards fans I have on the bike. This was proof positive that the fans are doing their job.
I have the same experience. At least the fans are cooling the heads...which is a good thing.
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the system sucks on the new bikes, it activates at 80 degrees air temp. the older system worked much better, it use head temps.
I haven't heard that anywhere else, and don't know why HD would have done that change.

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BTW: it's EITMS (Engine Idle Temperature Management System) not ETMS
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Mine does not activate at 80 degree air temp. I just got home from a ride in 95 degree air temp and it did not kick until I let the bike idle for several minutes at a long light. Just the way it is supposed to operate.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 12:47 AM
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I leave mine on. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I don't experience any hesitation or stumble coming off idle when the ETMS is "Active." Now I don't particularly care for how the Engine sounds when the ETMS is "Active," but I definitely appreciate the lower Engine temperature when at a stop.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 07:04 AM
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read the service manual, it may be in the owners manual also. all the new bikes starting in 14 come on at 80 degrees air temp. sucks !
 
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^^^ My 16 definitely does not. I have been riding in over 80 degree weather for months now, and it only comes on in the heat while sitting at a light for a few minutes.
 
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Add some cooling fans and it will never come on again. I have been using Wards fans for almost 3 years and my EMTS hasn't kicked in since the install.

With fans or not, I would activate it and let it do the task it was designed for.
 
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