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Harley says they are coming out with 100 new models over the next decade yet I find this really hard to believe. Is this realistic or is "100" just a nice round cool number to throw around for marketing purposes? Don't get me wrong, having that level of innovation and new bikes to choose from would be great but from a business/financial perspective how does this add up for them? Or do they just throw a M8 into their existing models dyna/softails and call that a new model?

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Well, they black out a road king, take the windshield off and sell it as a new model so I'm guessing that anything they throw an M8 in will count as one of their new models.

Each year they chose a couple of different models to CVO so each of those will be a new model.

If they really do a new common core frame then they'll have a new set of touring models.

I guess what I'm getting around to saying is that, the way they define a "new" model, 100 new models in ten years is not going to be all that tough to accomplish. It sure does sound good in advertisements though
 
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Well, they black out a road king, take the windshield off and sell it as a new model so I'm guessing that anything they throw an M8 in will count as one of their new models.

Each year they chose a couple of different models to CVO so each of those will be a new model.

If they really do a new common core frame then they'll have a new set of touring models.

I guess what I'm getting around to saying is that, the way they define a "new" model, 100 new models in ten years is not going to be all that tough to accomplish. It sure does sound good in advertisements though
Agreed. The MOCO's definition of "new model" doesn't mean it's going to be 100 brand new models.
 
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I hope they make something 'fresh'. When I see my sons Honda CVR(?) 600, it's a marvel to me. 4 cylinders, lighter than my MC and more horse power!
 
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I would also add it cuts the wind like nothing and handles like a dream.
 
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Agreed. The MOCO's definition of "new model" doesn't mean it's going to be 100 brand new models.

HD - well this isn't even a spin doctoring its bs, pure and raw. Adding a trim level is not adding a model. Changing a color is not adding a model. etc... The marketing people really think were stupid in not knowing what a model line / model / sub model and trim levels are. The only new model HD added in years was the Street Line. They had some major revisions and some sub model additions..
 
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100 new models?

I'd be satisfied with ONE that didn't need a thousand bucks (or more) thrown at it, right out of the showroom. i.e. Power & Suspension
 
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I thought it was "50" new models?

Either way.......






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I can't recall a truly new model this century other than the FXDX/T line; everything else is just trim and you could even "trim" out a stock Dyna of the day to FXDX spec if you wanted to buy the suspension...the Wide Glide used to have distinctive parts and the Switchback was pretty new but short lived...
 
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Originally Posted by ronaldrwl
I hope they make something 'fresh'. When I see my sons Honda CVR(?) 600, it's a marvel to me. 4 cylinders, lighter than my MC and more horse power!
I've ridden them; exciting when on the boil but pitiful torque and not comfortable on the long haul. Not characteristics someone comes into a HD showroom looking for
 


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