Condition definitions
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Condition definitions
Can someone please help me with the NADA Harley conditions definitions. Looking at buying an older cycle, makes a huge difference in price from good, to fair, to poor. I'm not sure how exactly to evaluate those terms.
Road Warrior
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From: CA
I don't think it matters much - try debating that with a seller. Use your judgment and be willing to walk away.
Here are some seller definitions:
Ran great when I parked it - it ran great before, not necessarily the "last" time I parked it.
Needs a tune up - was used for dirt track races without an air cleaner
Unmolested - extremely molested
Clean title - you aren't fast enough to find the dirt on this bike's record
Untested - untested because it doesn't work so I can't test it
Minor cosmetics - was in a horrifying crash
Mechanic special - any right thinking mechanic would sell at a special price and get rid of the problem
Here are some seller definitions:
Ran great when I parked it - it ran great before, not necessarily the "last" time I parked it.
Needs a tune up - was used for dirt track races without an air cleaner
Unmolested - extremely molested
Clean title - you aren't fast enough to find the dirt on this bike's record
Untested - untested because it doesn't work so I can't test it
Minor cosmetics - was in a horrifying crash
Mechanic special - any right thinking mechanic would sell at a special price and get rid of the problem
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From: Deep in the heart of New Jersey
Here's how NADA ranks them.,,
Value Type Definitions
Suggested List — The manufacturer's (distributors) highest suggested list price in the U.S.A. when the unit was new. Unless indicated, the suggested list price does not include destination charges, dealer set-up, state or local taxes, license tags or insurance.
Low Retail Value — A low retail unit may have extensive wear and tear. Body parts may have dents and blemishes. The buyer can expect to invest in cosmetic and/or mechanical work. This vehicle should be in safe running order. Low retail vehicles usually are not found on dealer lots. Low Retail is not trade-in value.
Average Retail Value — An average retail unit should be clean without obvious defects. All rubber and cables should be in good condition. The paint should match and have a good finish. All lights and switches should work properly. The mileage should be within or slightly higher than the average range. This unit should also pass any emission inspection.
Note: Vehicles/Vessels in exceptional condition can be worth a significantly higher value than the Average Retail Price shown.
Value Type Definitions
Suggested List — The manufacturer's (distributors) highest suggested list price in the U.S.A. when the unit was new. Unless indicated, the suggested list price does not include destination charges, dealer set-up, state or local taxes, license tags or insurance.
Low Retail Value — A low retail unit may have extensive wear and tear. Body parts may have dents and blemishes. The buyer can expect to invest in cosmetic and/or mechanical work. This vehicle should be in safe running order. Low retail vehicles usually are not found on dealer lots. Low Retail is not trade-in value.
Average Retail Value — An average retail unit should be clean without obvious defects. All rubber and cables should be in good condition. The paint should match and have a good finish. All lights and switches should work properly. The mileage should be within or slightly higher than the average range. This unit should also pass any emission inspection.
Note: Vehicles/Vessels in exceptional condition can be worth a significantly higher value than the Average Retail Price shown.
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2016
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From: Emmett, Michigan
A 15000 dollar bike, modded with 10000 in parts does not make a 25000 dollar bike. It's still only worth 15000.
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