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You sure saved me a lot typing which I still hate. I have had to learn it better in recent times.
I have been on the line since 20 yrs old and still on the line at 62 years old now, with 24 years in a dealership.
Along with what else you said this is very true in the places I have worked
"a good flat rate mechanic can usually beat the warranty time given enough repetitive repairs.. doing timing chains, transmission, axles etc.. you learn shortcuts everytime you do the same job over and over.."
WP
Exactly what I was getting at in my previous post.
I asked again over the holidays and he still takes all the warranty work he can get, as he can knock it out sooner than the job pays. Maybe "good mechanic" wasn't the right choice of words to use, Froggy and WP50 made what I was attempting to say much clearer.
My dealership experience was with Ford about 20 years ago, I have heard that Toyota, Nissan etc. pays a little better. I still disagree about warranty work being great money. Its not designed to be that way. I can see a flat rate dealership tech jumping on it because that's probably mostly all the work there is at a dealership. I tell people to go to the dealership if the vehicle is under warranty, after that, find a good indy. I got out of it at 40. Glad I did, I was miserable while I was a auto mechanic. The only good takeaway I have from it is that I can repair and maintain my own vehicles.
You're right and after I re-read what I typed it looked like I was down on doctors. What I meant was, if someone who has as much training as a medical doctor can do something poorly, surely a tech at dealer can get it wrong (don't get me started on a friend if mine who has a phd and refers to himself as DR).
I'm living proof of the good in the medical community; these guys saved me from cancer. Every Christmas I send them an email with photos from the year thanking them for another year of life I didn't have. You can see the medi-port in my chest; I loved it and hated it all at the same time.
I owe these guys everything. Sorry, back to topic.
I took your comment the way you intended it, never thought about any other way. We've used the same joke over the years for the guy with the lowest passing score on the bar exam, or the CPA exam. Wasn't me, by the way.
Originally Posted by HenryT
The sales people should have a clue, it might help them even in their own career to be more successful. They are the front line when talking to potential customers. Another thing, I have been in HD dealerships looking at bikes and knew more about the product then the sales douche, who worked used car sale techniques on me. Total high pressure to get a deposit out me on a bike they did not even have. Making me and the misses sit at his desk for like 20 minutes while he was supposedly working out a deal with the sales manager. After a little bit of that we got up and walked around and his buddy comes running over like we just broke the law and says; where are you going he's working out a deal for you. I replied we had enough of the game, when you all are ready to stop playing around with my time give me a call.
Sad part is all the dealerships in most of northern Illinois have been bought up by a corporation in the last couple years so they are all the same ownership. I went out of my way to buy my bike from a dealership that at the time was not associated with them, because of the experience I talked about above. Sure enough a year or so later they have also been bought up by the corporation.
Seems like they're sales people, not motorcycle people.
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