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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 03:34 PM
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I love the look of it, but I bet the real world range will be a lot lower then what they will advertise it to be. HD 100 mile range, realty with a little fun driving with it 60 miles. As the battery ages the range will decrees. I think it will be fun to ride and good for city driving. I will be surprised if it's much under $30,000 and if I'm right, that will stop a lot of buyers.
I would like this to be a big hit for the MoCo, but I have doubts.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 03:41 PM
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The motor/battery section just looks enormous on that thing compared to a Zero. The electric motor part should be relatively small. Is all the other space excess battery capacity? I have to assume that the HD will have a 2,000 mile range?
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 04:00 PM
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Probably because they don't want the public to know that it's a dog and you need a 52" inseam to touch the ground with both feet. And what a God awful looking machine. Why am I not surprise that the MOCo would waste so much money on developing and producing that clunker instead of spending it on making their regular lineup more reliable. Congrats Harley. You've come up with another flop that won't be around more than three years.
But it's guaranteed not to dump or experience fluid transfer. Hooray! They solved the sumping problem that developed because they forgot how to make a reliable functional lubrication system!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 04:21 PM
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Knowing Harley & their pricing, i would say $32,000. Trying to attract the younger generation with that high of a price tag, only a limited few.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 04:37 PM
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Shyte, wrote a long critique, hit the wrong key (not sure which one), and lost it all. EFF it, maybe later I'll try again with specifics.

Short version, if the price is anything near reasonable, this will be a winner, BIGLY! One really smart move is to have the LiveWires available at ONLY select dealers where the salespeople are familiar with them, and their relationship to the more traditional ICE's and the Income stream produced by the ICE-oriented service department, something that's been a huge problem for traditional ICE automakers.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 05:55 PM
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I'm looking forward to test riding one of these bikes. I test rode the prototype model that made the rounds a few years ago and found it to have decent power but I didn't particularly care for the designed in gear whine. The H-D folks tending to the bike and taking feedback were all a twitter about that "feature" and were disappointed when I told them I didn't find it appealing. I said they should just let the machine speak for itself without adding the equivalent of a baseball card in the spokes noise maker. I also found the suspension and brakes to be "wooden". Hopefully they've fixed that on the production bike.

So far as performance is concerned, I thought the original prototype bike would out accelerate my stock 2013 Dyna and I would expect this production model would as well. I just hope pricing isn't too astronomical and the range is somewhat decent. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
 

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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 06:13 PM
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I'm interested enough to take a look and test drive one. They look good to me. I'm not going to buy a new toy for 30K. But maybe at some point the price will come way way way down.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 07:32 PM
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I think its a cool looking bike and I wish them good luck with it. Will I ever buy one? Doubtful. But its also doubtful I will ever be in the market for a sportster or 90% of the softtails. Or any of the sporty BMW's, Kawaski's, Yamaha's, etc.
 
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I don't have to worry about the price. NOT FOR ME

I'm sure I am way off, but to me if it is over $10k it will be a really hard sell.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 10:17 PM
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Saw it at the 115th and thought it looked great. Got zero info on specs from the person I talked to about it. Seat isn't higher than normal.
 
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