General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Kcmo plant closed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 09:27 AM
  #11  
Brewmany's Avatar
Brewmany
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 4,214
Likes: 661
From: Prior Lake, MN
Default

Originally Posted by back again
Is this not what business is supposed to do to stay in business.? I feel for those who lost jobs but business fails to exist when it doesn’t turn a profit. If they are good at what they do they they will find other work. If you limit yourself to not reaching out ,let’s say not wanting to or able to relocate it might be a little difficult to find what you want. Time to re-evaluate and maybe go down a different path. Assess and change is part of life is what I learned early in life as far as work goes. If you want to eat and keep a roof over yourself and family you will adapt.
Spot on. Companies (not just corporations, especially the much derided publicly held corporations) do what they feel is necessary to stay viable. Sometimes those things suck for the employees. Happened to me a couple decades ago, the company I worked for closed down- and everyone lost their jobs. I did get a nice severance package and a retention bonus so I wouldn't flee the sinking ship too quickly.

Why did the company close? Because it didn't make a profit.
 
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 01:00 PM
  #12  
RK4ME's Avatar
RK4ME
Seasoned HDF Member
Veteran: Army
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,243
Likes: 3,266
From: west Michigan
Default

Originally Posted by Chunker
For those who would trash the capitalistic society imagine a Harley made by the government managed by the post office.

EDIT; HD has problems as we all know and the target buyer is fading away. Quality is suffering because they are chasing the dying market. Why can't HD make an adventure bike like the Triumph Tiger, BMW GS, etc? It has the capacity and even the engines. No will is the problem.
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/f...dventure-bike/
 
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 01:06 PM
  #13  
TwiZted Biker's Avatar
TwiZted Biker
Club Member
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 66,122
Likes: 51,431
From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Default

I work with a guy from the KC plant, his take is there was always a lot of labor problems there with the average knuckle dragger assembly worker. You had some union jobs but a lot more temps, the temps tended to be erratic attendance wise with a big turn over. Place stayed longer than I thought it would to be honest.
 
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 02:32 PM
  #14  
MoRider's Avatar
MoRider
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 269
Likes: 64
From: Kansas city
Default

Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
I work with a guy from the KC plant, his take is there was always a lot of labor problems there with the average knuckle dragger assembly worker. You had some union jobs but a lot more temps, the temps tended to be erratic attendance wise with a big turn over. Place stayed longer than I thought it would to be honest.
I worked there and due to the union contract only 30% of the work force could be casuals. There were good workers and bad workers just like anyplace else.
 
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 02:55 PM
  #15  
TriGeezer's Avatar
TriGeezer
Seasoned HDF Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 32,934
Likes: 36,032
From: Carlsbad, CA
Default

...and yet, companies like Toyota & Honda can make high quality cars in the US with American “knuckle dragging” labor. With the right leadership, designs, and processes, any production facility can put out high quality products.
 
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 03:17 PM
  #16  
TwiZted Biker's Avatar
TwiZted Biker
Club Member
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 66,122
Likes: 51,431
From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Default

Originally Posted by TriGeezer
...and yet, companies like Toyota & Honda can make high quality cars in the US with American “knuckle dragging” labor. With the right leadership, designs, and processes, any production facility can put out high quality products.
Guy I've been in & out of auto plants including Toyota most my working career and am currently in a cutting edge plant, Toyota & Honda do what they do because they enforce and don't vary off a well planned routine or standardized work process. US assembly workers by our very nature don't do repetition well and then they tend to do it the way each individual wants to. This is a huge issue in a high rate assembly environment, consistency goes out the window.

Takes a certain mindset to do that kind of work day in & day out and the American labor force has been losing it steadily for years, knock the wages paid for it down and where's the incentive to get it together and bust *** ?
 
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 03:37 PM
  #17  
robarosa's Avatar
robarosa
Road Warrior
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 668
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by MoRider
I worked at the Harley plant for 14 years before it closed. It is what it is. I'll find something else because life goes on.
MoRider; We cut up and joke around here, but going through a plant closing is serious to those involved. Thank you for your work at Harley Davidson and hope the best for you.

oh, and Brewmany; That was a Saturday morning joke. Everyone knows why a plant closes.
 

Last edited by robarosa; Jun 1, 2019 at 05:30 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 04:18 PM
  #18  
TwiZted Biker's Avatar
TwiZted Biker
Club Member
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 66,122
Likes: 51,431
From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Default

Originally Posted by MoRider
I worked at the Harley plant for 14 years before it closed. It is what it is. I'll find something else because life goes on.
Had a car plant close out from under me 6 months shy of my 20 years, I feel you. I also lived in KC for 15 years know the working environment there well. Good luck to you and your future endeavors
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 1, 2019 | 11:14 PM
  #19  
OLD 96's Avatar
OLD 96
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,149
Likes: 2,975
From: WACO
Default

Demand and supply. If the demand is not there. Why keep making a product if no one is buying it? Thus plants have to be closed. I do not like to say it. But. That is just how it is. HD is hemorrhaging money.
 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:16 AM
  #20  
CalypsoNotch93's Avatar
CalypsoNotch93
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 98
From: NC
Default

Do away with the union and pay a man worth the job for what he does and the cost will come down and the profit will go up.


...but they already know that
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:34 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE