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Old Jun 8, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chunker
For those who would trash the capitalistic society imagine a Harley made by the government managed by the post office.

EDIT; HD has problems as we all know and the target buyer is fading away. Quality is suffering because they are chasing the dying market. Why can't HD make an adventure bike like the Triumph Tiger, BMW GS, etc? It has the capacity and even the engines. No will is the problem.
On the contrary, the USPS is not a for profit organization and therefore not capitalist. UPS and FedEx are. USPS is meant to be self sustaining under government bureaucracy - which is its own problem.
 
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On the contrary, the USPS is not a for profit organization and therefore not capitalist. UPS and FedEx are. USPS is meant to be self sustaining under government bureaucracy - which is its own problem.
Interesting analogy, my service contractor days I worked in USPS , UPS and Fedex bulk sorting centers on their material handling systems. HUGE worlds of difference in the working environments and management structures between the USPS and the privately owned competitors. Every time I visited a post office location I had multiple hoops I had to jump through and always came away shaking my head at the lack luster casual don't give **** attitudes everybody in the back rooms had, seeing mail being dumped in 20 yard dumpsters didn't help either.
 
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Originally Posted by daniel.sm
Harley has been consolidating its operation since Keith Wandell was the CEO, back in 2008.....the crisis affected everyone and H-D was no different.

By that time, their core consumers have been diminishing as they kept putting even more bikes on the streets (remember the 90's when H-D had a waiting list?)

Since then, Capitol Dr. Plant has been closed and consolidated into Pilgrim Rd. (and now is a U-Haul location and self-storage...been there last week), Franklin Dist Center was closed and outsourcing was the solution.

Remaining are Tomahawk (fiberglass), York (final assembly) and Pilgrim Rd (Powertrain).

Another point to notice is that it's more interesting to have a single facility that can do just about everything from end-to-end than several different properties scattered through the country.

Other partners also shut down its doors as part of Wandell's reorganization....CastAlloy in Australia is an exampla.

On the other hand, HD has it's international Mkt growing and its expansion with an all new Assembly line in Brazil (the 1st was opened in 1999 and now expanded in 2012), the India operation and now Thailand are examples that the investment is going elsewhere....not to say they're thinking in also having a similar operation in Europe.

Note, that despite the many assembly lines overseas....all components are US-Made (i've seen at the Brazilian Plant).
No they are not, a large percentage of harley Davidson motorcycles are china manufactured parts. To be able to sell a US product in China which Harley does China requires a set percentage of that product to made with chinese components. Little fact few know about or understand, it's particularly cut throat in the auto & transportation industries which harley is part of. In my second auto plant that ships to China I pass warehouses areas filled with boxes from China everyday.

Welcome to the global economy.......

If Harley thought for a second they could outsource assembly cheaper out of the US and keep a buyer base they would move **** so quick it would make you head swim watching the trucks running to the ports .
 

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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Interesting analogy, my service contractor days I worked in USPS , UPS and Fedex bulk sorting centers on their material handling systems. HUGE worlds of difference in the working environments and management structures between the USPS and the privately owned competitors. Every time I visited a post office location I had multiple hoops I had to jump through and always came away shaking my head at the lack luster casual don't give **** attitudes everybody in the back rooms had, seeing mail being dumped in 20 yard dumpsters didn't help either.
I believe all of that. Know the mail being dumped was undeliverable bulk business mail (junkmail). Yes, there is that much of it.
 
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