MSF BRC is great
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From: Las Vegas, NV
The add on this that I would recommend is the Motorman Jerry course series. There are lots of real world situations visualized and even if you learn just one thing, its worth it. I spent a few hours in front of the computer and a few good lessons thee that were not in MSF..
Road Captain
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From: Munchkinland
Agreed, when I decided I wanted to start riding my first stop was the MSF course, I went from never riding to being able to ride a motorcycle in a matter of 2 days. Bonus I didn't have to take the riding portion of my license but mostly I think it helped me learn how to do low speed maneuvers and have confidence in my ability. Well worth the 150 bucks or whatever it was I spent on it.
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Good course Navy made it mandatory around 06 and had to take the course every three years after. I'll be retiring soon at 24 years and will probably never take one again. Won't be shaving for quite awhile either
Road Master
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From: Philly PA
I took the first ARC here in PA a few years ago and learned a lot. Everything has been restructured in PA now with a different group running the courses for the State. I hope to sign up for one in the spring.
Cruiser
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From: MD, USA
I took the MSF course at a Harley dealer back in 2010, shortly after getting my bike (I was riding legally on a learner's permit with a licensed rider w/in 100'), learned a lot - like actually using the friction zone.
My wife sent me to the BRC2 course last fall, where you ride your own bike. OP, I highly recommend that one, especially if you own something other than what you learned on in the first class. It was an eye-opener and has helped me be safer out on the mean streets.
Recently I've been watching a bunch of YouTube m/c videos, from MC Rider to Motorman Jerry Palladino, MotoJitsu, DanDanTheFireman.
MC Rider teaches road strategy, safety, and basic skills.
Motorman Jerry teaches low-speed maneuvers and handling big bikes "like a child's toy" as he puts it.
MotoJitsu is all about body positioning, head/eyes, and leans.
DDTF is ATGATT, safety, slowing down, accident avoidance through paying attention.
The more professional courses you take, the higher your skills (theoretically, at least) will get, the safer and more confident you'll be out on the road.
Ride safely!
-John
My wife sent me to the BRC2 course last fall, where you ride your own bike. OP, I highly recommend that one, especially if you own something other than what you learned on in the first class. It was an eye-opener and has helped me be safer out on the mean streets.
Recently I've been watching a bunch of YouTube m/c videos, from MC Rider to Motorman Jerry Palladino, MotoJitsu, DanDanTheFireman.
MC Rider teaches road strategy, safety, and basic skills.
Motorman Jerry teaches low-speed maneuvers and handling big bikes "like a child's toy" as he puts it.
MotoJitsu is all about body positioning, head/eyes, and leans.
DDTF is ATGATT, safety, slowing down, accident avoidance through paying attention.
The more professional courses you take, the higher your skills (theoretically, at least) will get, the safer and more confident you'll be out on the road.
Ride safely!
-John
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From: Sandy Eggo's North County
While watching videos or reading books is ok, there's no replacement for "butts in the seats, with the wheels turning."
This is where the real learning occurs.
And finally, yes. Taking more advanced training can increase your skillset.
The very best riders have huge skillsets. Those riders practice those skillsets daily. They are proficient in all aspects of motorcycle handling. Be it braking, or swerving, or the complex combination of the 2, they also have instant surface evaluation and ride accordingly. You see, highly skilled riders may have very high level skills, but they also do not put themselves in situations that require the use of those highly developed skills. This is the rider anyone could learn from.
This is where the real learning occurs.
And finally, yes. Taking more advanced training can increase your skillset.
The very best riders have huge skillsets. Those riders practice those skillsets daily. They are proficient in all aspects of motorcycle handling. Be it braking, or swerving, or the complex combination of the 2, they also have instant surface evaluation and ride accordingly. You see, highly skilled riders may have very high level skills, but they also do not put themselves in situations that require the use of those highly developed skills. This is the rider anyone could learn from.
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6th Gear
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From: South Carolina
That one is not offered for us anymore. However they do have ARC and I required to take that one in April.
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It is also more enjoyable as it is not as slow of a pace as the BRC2. The ARC has sport bikes and cruisers in the class together. It is a blend of the BRC2 and the Sport Bike Riders course.
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Road Master
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From: Philly PA
Cruiser
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From: MD, USA
Yeah, we had mostly Harleys in my class, with my Vaquero and a KTM Duke 390 (which dude trailered up to the course - it was 28 degrees when I left the house to go there). Everything else was a Road King, Limited, or RGU.
-John
-John