Ape Wobble ??
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
ORIGINAL: anubisss
No wobble here. this is where the "no death grip" comes into play IMO...
No wobble here. this is where the "no death grip" comes into play IMO...
Actually, I've tried a lot of different techniques for cornering, and the "stiff arm" on the bars seems to be the best so far.
One thing i've noticed since going with higher bars is not as much counter steer when cornering is needed. Or at least it doesn't feel like it. I rode with drag bars before, and at high speeds you really notice the fact that your pushing/pulling on the bars when cornering hard.
With the apes, it's more body lean than anything.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong here.
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
The reason I'm asking, I ride pretty hard into curves. I had stock Dunlops on my bike. When I hammed it and let offgoing into curves the bike seemed like it walked some into curves. It seemed at times to be line I was on the edge of my rim walking across the road.
When I got onto a uneven road and changed lanes my bike was funning about changing lanes. When it had bad paved places in the road it seemed to wobble around in them. Look at the bottom of the Dunlop tires on Back, they seem to have a flat spot in the center.
I left Dunlops and went to Metzler 880 series tires.
I had a MH 90 on the front and went to a 80 series tire.
On back I had a 160/70 17" Dunlop tire and I went to a 170/60 17" metzler. The tire is more rounded now and don't wobble or walk on the road as much or find places that are not paved real even.. My wife riding on the back can notise the differenece.
I like the Metzler 880 series tires better, been to over 120 on the speedo and layed way down in the curves and they held good.Oh yea I think it says on papers when you git the tires to ride them 300 miles before you test them to allow them to break in.
When I got onto a uneven road and changed lanes my bike was funning about changing lanes. When it had bad paved places in the road it seemed to wobble around in them. Look at the bottom of the Dunlop tires on Back, they seem to have a flat spot in the center.
I left Dunlops and went to Metzler 880 series tires.
I had a MH 90 on the front and went to a 80 series tire.
On back I had a 160/70 17" Dunlop tire and I went to a 170/60 17" metzler. The tire is more rounded now and don't wobble or walk on the road as much or find places that are not paved real even.. My wife riding on the back can notise the differenece.
I like the Metzler 880 series tires better, been to over 120 on the speedo and layed way down in the curves and they held good.Oh yea I think it says on papers when you git the tires to ride them 300 miles before you test them to allow them to break in.
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
ORIGINAL: RazorFXDB
2. Definitely gonna look at changing these out. My bars have been moving back on me after a ride. The roads where I live are HIDEOUS, and with the rubber bushings, I slam the bars around pretty good. Blue loctited the bolts on the riser and it's helped, but still some movement if I'm not mistaken.
2. Definitely gonna look at changing these out. My bars have been moving back on me after a ride. The roads where I live are HIDEOUS, and with the rubber bushings, I slam the bars around pretty good. Blue loctited the bolts on the riser and it's helped, but still some movement if I'm not mistaken.
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
wheels and tires are balanced? if I ever develop any shake I'd check tires and wheels first and forget about anything I just changed until I ruled out a drive train issue. then I'd go back to the modification and double check the work done.
Have you tried putting your stock bars back on and making sure they too don't have this issue? maybe you just got used to the feel and then the new bars made you think it was a new problem?
I'm just thinking out loud. I'm interested in what the problem ends up being.
Have you tried putting your stock bars back on and making sure they too don't have this issue? maybe you just got used to the feel and then the new bars made you think it was a new problem?
I'm just thinking out loud. I'm interested in what the problem ends up being.
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
ORIGINAL: RazorFXDB
No death grip here .. honest. I'm ususally riding with my arms bent and only using my fingers to hold on to the bars. No palm. Helps keep 'em from goin numb on the long hauls.
Actually, I've tried a lot of different techniques for cornering, and the "stiff arm" on the bars seems to be the best so far.
One thing i've noticed since going with higher bars is not as much counter steer when cornering is needed. Or at least it doesn't feel like it. I rode with drag bars before, and at high speeds you really notice the fact that your pushing/pulling on the bars when cornering hard.
With the apes, it's more body lean than anything.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong here.
ORIGINAL: anubisss
No wobble here. this is where the "no death grip" comes into play IMO...
No wobble here. this is where the "no death grip" comes into play IMO...
Actually, I've tried a lot of different techniques for cornering, and the "stiff arm" on the bars seems to be the best so far.
One thing i've noticed since going with higher bars is not as much counter steer when cornering is needed. Or at least it doesn't feel like it. I rode with drag bars before, and at high speeds you really notice the fact that your pushing/pulling on the bars when cornering hard.
With the apes, it's more body lean than anything.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong here.
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
first I would get rid of the dyna or at least see if the rear spring is adjustable is so try one notch up or down what you discribe is quite common on bikes with rear outboard shocks (dyna) also tire pressure but usually only straight ahead..
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
ORIGINAL: grumpy irish again
first I would get rid of the dyna or at least see if the rear spring is adjustable is so try one notch up or down what you discribe is quite common on bikes with rear outboard shocks (dyna) also tire pressure but usually only straight ahead..
first I would get rid of the dyna or at least see if the rear spring is adjustable is so try one notch up or down what you discribe is quite common on bikes with rear outboard shocks (dyna) also tire pressure but usually only straight ahead..
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RE: Ape Wobble ??
ORIGINAL: grumpy irish again
first I would get rid of the dyna or at least see if the rear spring is adjustable is so try one notch up or down what you discribe is quite common on bikes with rear outboard shocks (dyna) also tire pressure but usually only straight ahead..
[IMG]local://upfiles/5757/4A360D0CD7ED45EEBD2803C2FBA5A898.jpg[/IMG]
first I would get rid of the dyna or at least see if the rear spring is adjustable is so try one notch up or down what you discribe is quite common on bikes with rear outboard shocks (dyna) also tire pressure but usually only straight ahead..
[IMG]local://upfiles/5757/4A360D0CD7ED45EEBD2803C2FBA5A898.jpg[/IMG]