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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 04:40 PM
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I have an 09 Ultra Classic. I am interested in buying heated gear (2 sets pants and jackets), does anyone know if the stock charging system can support 2 sets of the heated gear? Thank you for the help.
 
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I'm not an electrical engineer just going from prior posts and heated gear experience. Depends on the other electrical loads, engine, number of lights (incandescent or LED) other accessories. If you have LEDs for the headlight, spots and no other extra loads you shouldn't have a problem. Most of the heated gear even coat and pants combined draw less than 8 amps. For two up plugged in riding the bike should be able to handle an extra 15-20 amps above idle speed. If you notice the lights dimming at idle it's a clue your system is overloaded. H-D has an upgraded alternator used on the later models that retro fits your year. That upgrade may be needed for consistent worry free riding. You'll also need a battery in good condition with the highest capacity available. If you get caught in an extended idle situation best to unplug. After you've been riding at normal speeds for 5 or 10 minutes the system should have recovered enough to plug in again.
 
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I have an 09 Ultra Classic. I am interested in buying heated gear (2 sets pants and jackets), does anyone know if the stock charging system can support 2 sets of the heated gear? Thank you for the help.
My 2010 FLSTFB came with a 40 amp alternator. Smoked it with a combination of adding a heated jacket to the standard light bulbs Harley supplies. Changed out to all LED bulbs including headlight and replaced the smoked 40 amp up to an aftermarket 50 amp alternator. No problems since then. Your 09 may have a larger alt than 40 amp. I'd check and upgrade to as high an amp as you can go. Use the heated gear judiciously. Especially for a two up riding venture. Maybe buy Chaps first and use them instead of heated pants. I don't get cold legs in chaps. Stay away from the lithium batteries too. Just my opinions.
 

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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 01:10 AM
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Ok, I'm new to Harley's but I've been riding 32 years. I know what an alternator is, but with other bikes it's a stator and regulator/rectifier. Those stators can push 50-80 VAC. The weak point would be the overheating, shunt style, reg/rec's. The upgrade is to install a mosfet R/R. The shunt style R/R makes the stator work harder as it "shunts" the unused AC current to ground non-stop. It dumps the extra load in the form of heat. Excessive heat kills electronics. A mosfet R/R is much more efficient and will only use what is needed by the DC system. That should also make it easier for the system to handle heated gear, extra lighting, radios...you name it A quick google search showed both types R/R are available. If I have to go this route to keep the lights from dimming, it will be an upgraded stator along with a mosfet R/R.
 

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As S & S mentions don't ignore the regulator if you upgrade the stator. It is a system and both have to be able to handle the additional current.
 
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Originally Posted by Jerryaultra
I have an 09 Ultra Classic. I am interested in buying heated gear (2 sets pants and jackets), does anyone know if the stock charging system can support 2 sets of the heated gear? Thank you for the help.
if your charging system is stock, back then I believe it was a 30 amp output with max output of 54 amp when it would start overheating. Your jacket/ pant combos will pull approx 10 amp apiece so your stock system won’t be adequate to run 2 sets at the same time with all the other stuff it has to run. However, I believe cycle electric has a standard 54 amp system (stator/regulator) you can install on a 2009 flhtcu and problem solved.
 
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I smoked my 2010 RoadKings charging system with heated gear. I upgraded to the newer system and haven't had an issue since.
 
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Originally Posted by Jerryaultra
I have an 09 Ultra Classic. I am interested in buying heated gear (2 sets pants and jackets), does anyone know if the stock charging system can support 2 sets of the heated gear? Thank you for the help.
If you get the heated socks and gloves to go with the rest you will be very very happy in the 30's.
 
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Originally Posted by Stars & Stripes
Ok, I'm new to Harley's but I've been riding 32 years. I know what an alternator is, but with other bikes it's a stator and regulator/rectifier. Those stators can push 50-80 VAC. The weak point would be the overheating, shunt style, reg/rec's. The upgrade is to install a mosfet R/R. The shunt style R/R makes the stator work harder as it "shunts" the unused AC current to ground non-stop. It dumps the extra load in the form of heat. Excessive heat kills electronics. A mosfet R/R is much more efficient and will only use what is needed by the DC system. That should also make it easier for the system to handle heated gear, extra lighting, radios...you name it A quick google search showed both types R/R are available. If I have to go this route to keep the lights from dimming, it will be an upgraded stator along with a mosfet R/R.
Stars and Stripes is correct. STATOR, with external REGULATOR/RECTIFIER. Not ALTERNATOR.
 
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Originally Posted by LenBoyLo
Stars and Stripes is correct. STATOR, with external REGULATOR/RECTIFIER. Not ALTERNATOR.
Come on man, we were giving the dude a break!
 
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