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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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not to sound like a know it all but i've done mostly sport bike ridingand we did the twisty road thing most every weekend as well as attend a few track days. i knew what my bikes could do and how far over i could safely lean. i've had my harley about a month now and not that i am trying to be a speed demon but i am still a little nervous because i do not know how far i can push it / lean it. i scrap the floorboards at least once or twice per ride and i don't mind scrapping something but justdon't want to flick it too far / tooquicklyand raise the back wheel off the ground.[&:] i know i just need to (continue) to take it easy unil i get to know the bike a little better to gain confidence. i still pucker a bit everytime i hear something scrape - mainly because it catches me off guard;but i love to lean the bike over.

there are lots of good performance riding books out there - several mentioned above. "sport riding technique" and "total control" are a couplegood ones as well- most if not all the techiques are are applicable to cruiser riding as well. also do a google ao keith code (twist of the wrist fame). he has a pretty good web site with lots of technique / advice as well. i like the proficient motorcycling series as well - lots of good advicenot just cornering but how tosurvive the mean (and often unpredictable) streets.

one piece of advice i was given that helps me is: "Don't ride faster than you can see". unless you can see around the corner / curve, you never know what is waiting for you. you may be ok 999 times but that one time that something unpeneratable (or slippery) can ruin your whole ride, day, or life. don't dwell on it just ride smart.

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: garydogwood

one piece of advice i was given that helps me is: "Don't ride faster than you can see". unless you can see around the corner / curve, you never know what is waiting for you. you may be ok 999 times but that one time that something unpeneratable (or slippery) can ruin your whole ride, day, or life. don't dwell on it just ride smart.

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that's a good point
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Counter steer and look all the way through the corner. If you look at were you want to be and not in front of you, you will automatically adjust your trajectory without even thinking about it.
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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I read 2 of the books mentioned by lbjohnson1. But I had learned to ride like an insane person on my rice rocket long before reading those. THAT'S RIGHT I'M YOUR DADDY...
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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"THAT'S RIGHT I'M YOUR DADDY... " Well in That case,. can I have a bigger allowance???
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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DOC, that SE roadking is sick! I love the painted hard bags, thats how they should come!

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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ORIGINAL: garydogwood

not to sound like a know it all but i've done mostly sport bike ridingand we did the twisty road thing most every weekend as well as attend a few track days. i knew what my bikes could do and how far over i could safely lean. i've had my harley about a month now and not that i am trying to be a speed demon but i am still a little nervous because i do not know how far i can push it / lean it. i scrap the floorboards at least once or twice per ride and i don't mind scrapping something but justdon't want to flick it too far / tooquicklyand raise the back wheel off the ground.[&:] i know i just need to (continue) to take it easy unil i get to know the bike a little better to gain confidence. i still pucker a bit everytime i hear something scrape - mainly because it catches me off guard;but i love to lean the bike over.

there are lots of good performance riding books out there - several mentioned above. "sport riding technique" and "total control" are a couplegood ones as well- most if not all the techiques are are applicable to cruiser riding as well. also do a google ao keith code (twist of the wrist fame). he has a pretty good web site with lots of technique / advice as well. i like the proficient motorcycling series as well - lots of good advicenot just cornering but how tosurvive the mean (and often unpredictable) streets.

one piece of advice i was given that helps me is: "Don't ride faster than you can see". unless you can see around the corner / curve, you never know what is waiting for you. you may be ok 999 times but that one time that something unpeneratable (or slippery) can ruin your whole ride, day, or life. don't dwell on it just ride smart.

gw


When you start scraping parts, that is telling you that you better not lean much further. A buddy and I were in my back yard talking bikes one day and the subject of scraping the pegs came up. On a whim we pulled my bike out of the shed, and I had him hold the bike and lean it over until the peg hit the ground. Has anyone ever done this? Because I will tell you this, when your peg is hitting the ground, there is VERY VERY little tread actually touching the road. Try it sometime and see for yourself. You will be surprised.
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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When you start scraping parts, that is telling you that you better not lean much further. A buddy and I were in my back yard talking bikes one day and the subject of scraping the pegs came up. On a whim we pulled my bike out of the shed, and I had him hold the bike and lean it over until the peg hit the ground. Has anyone ever done this? Because I will tell you this, when your peg is hitting the ground, there is VERY VERY little tread actually touching the road. Try it sometime and see for yourself. You will be surprised.
Worry less about the amount of tire touching the ground, and more about the weight on said tire. The danger of hard parts touching is that the weight comes off the tire and onto the peg, muffler, etc. lowering the grip and allowing you to slide.

This gentlemen has a very small amount of rubber touching the asphalt, and he's doing well over 100mph. However, all of the weight of he and the bike are on the tire, causing friction, causing grip. Don't be fooled by the knee; any of the sportbike guys that have already replied can confirm it's just there for feel. The physics behind this cornering and your cornering are the same.

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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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in heavy cross wind lean it a bit into the wind, just like you turn a airplane into the wind with the rudder.

Alot of the stuff you lean in getting your pilots lic makes you a better rider. The bike has an advantage, if the motor stops you can just coast to a stop instead of looking for a field or a road to put her down on
 
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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I think it's all about knowing your bike,and not being afraid to lean into a turn.
 



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