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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 07:51 AM
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Just some information. Currently according to the Department of Energy there are only 2300 gas stations offering E15 out of over 150,00 gas stations. So a very small percentage will offer it.

It will never go in anything I own, car, suv, motorcycle, boat, lawn equipment and so on.

Here is a link to a government web site on E15.

Energy.gov


Vehicles prohibited from using E15:
  • All motorcycles
  • All vehicles with heavy-duty engines, such as school buses and delivery trucks
  • All off-road vehicles, such as boats and snowmobiles
  • All engines in off-road equipment, such as chain saws and gasoline lawn mowers
  • All conventional vehicles older than model year 2001.
So the government says you can not run E15 in your motorcycle
 
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Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave
Just some information. Currently according to the Department of Energy there are only 2300 gas stations offering E15 out of over 150,00 gas stations. So a very small percentage will offer it.

It will never go in anything I own, car, suv, motorcycle, boat, lawn equipment and so on.

Here is a link to a government web site on E15.

Energy.gov




So the government says you can not run E15 in your motorcycle
Unless I'm interpreting the current government goal, I understand it to be that the current Federal restrictions you notate will be lifted, and E10 will be replaced by E15 since those restrictions will no longer exist. I hope I'm wrong about that.
 
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Unless I'm interpreting the current government goal, I understand it to be that the current Federal restrictions you notate will be lifted, and E10 will be replaced by E15 since those restrictions will no longer exist. I hope I'm wrong about that.
EPA set up rules in 2009 on E15 that prohibit in the vehicles the gov web site lists. in 2011 the Supreme Court upheld that. Also year round sales are prohibited. The current push is for it to be used more in Vehicles that can use it, not things that can not use it. So its for cars newer than 2001.

I doubt many stations will add E15 as there is equipment cost involved. Then there is the how many people will buy it? Every vehicle we own calls for premium, and E15 is not a premium.


 
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Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave
EPA set up rules in 2009 on E15 that prohibit in the vehicles the gov web site lists. in 2011 the Supreme Court upheld that. Also year round sales are prohibited. The current push is for it to be used more in Vehicles that can use it, not things that can not use it. So its for cars newer than 2001.

I doubt many stations will add E15 as there is equipment cost involved. Then there is the how many people will buy it? Every vehicle we own calls for premium, and E15 is not a premium.
Dave, I don't think you understand what I mean. I know what the current ruling is. Biden is working to overturn all those E15 prohibitions (perhaps temporarily), and my interpretation is that he wants to replace E10 with E15. All that takes is changing stickers on the pumps, no equipment costs. That doesn't mean we won't have access to premium, but it could mean the cheap gas people will not have access to E10, and folks running pre-2001 cars will have to run premium. Here in the midwest, E10 is all that is available in more remote areas (Iowa, for example) so E15 may be the only choice when traveling in those areas.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. I guess we will wait and see. It's a BS move regardless.
 
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I’m still pissed about unleaded.
 
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Originally Posted by strych9
Dave, I don't think you understand what I mean. I know what the current ruling is. Biden is working to overturn all those E15 prohibitions (perhaps temporarily), and my interpretation is that he wants to replace E10 with E15. All that takes is changing stickers on the pumps, no equipment costs. That doesn't mean we won't have access to premium, but it could mean the cheap gas people will not have access to E10, and folks running pre-2001 cars will have to run premium. Here in the midwest, E10 is all that is available in more remote areas (Iowa, for example) so E15 may be the only choice when traveling in those areas.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. I guess we will wait and see. It's a BS move regardless.
That is my understanding, E10 will be bumped out for E15, Since when did the government care about what the ruling or law is. He can wipe it out with a stroke of the pen
 
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Ok, I'm done trying to keep this non-political. This thread is done.
 
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