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Dec 30, 2022 | 12:12 PM

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adm

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Originally Posted by RK4ME

I wonder if the MoCo requires its UK and maybe its EU dealers to sell their bikes at MSRP, with no stupid games played with fees.

It's not the MoCo, it's EU and UK law for all vehicles. MSRP is the out the door price. It can go lower if you can negotiate a deal, but can't go higher unless you add accessories.

It's a pretty good law.

Dec 30, 2022 | 04:53 PM

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skratch

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Originally Posted by RK4ME

Get your financing pre approved at your Bank or CU; that will eliminate the "payment" issue at the dealer. Don't let them run your credit if you're not going to use their financing.

credit bureaus know that you shop loans the same way that you shop for a vehicle. so having the dealer run your credit is a non issue. it won't hurt your score. i do agree that you should already have pre-approved financing when you go in, but don't be afraid to have them compete for your loan as well. since 2002, i have purchased 9 harleys. financed every one of them. most of them i ended up going through eagle mark (hd) financing because they were able to beat my credit union's rate.

with hd, you are approved at a 'tier'. for example, tier one may be 1.9% - 4.9%. anything that the dealer gets over the 1.9%, is money in their pocket. if they don't give you the buy rate, and it's higher than your pre-approved rate, then don't use it. but you could be surprised.

Dec 31, 2022 | 12:32 AM

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WorkForIt

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Originally Posted by TriGeezer

Not at my local dealer. Without negotiating they are:
MSRP + freight+ tax + doc fees….and that’s it.

Mine too. Paris HD is awesome. In many ways.

Jan 1, 2023 | 07:38 AM

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Cap77

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Originally Posted by adm

It's not the MoCo, it's EU and UK law for all vehicles. MSRP is the out the door price. .

"OTD" price here generally means total cost including taxes, doc fees, etc
If my google-foo is working right this morning, there's a 20% VAT tax over there on bikes under 30 years old

for clarity, does your "OTD" price include VAT and/or any other fees?

Thanks

..L.T.A.

Jan 1, 2023 | 07:14 PM

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Rabianegra

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Yes. MSRP is final price, all included except, in some cases, the license plate and related paperwork (around 400€ in Spain).
But you can usually negotiate if they try to charge you with that.

Jan 1, 2023 | 07:43 PM

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Cap77

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Originally Posted by Rabianegra

Yes. MSRP is final price, all included except, in some cases, the license plate and related paperwork (around 400€ in Spain).
But you can usually negotiate if they try to charge you with that.

wow.
Thanks Rab

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Originally Posted by adm

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That's $20,807 at today's exchange rate. .

so if I have this right, with 20% VAT tax in that $21k , the Harley dealer in UK sold a new Low Rider ST for $16k?!?!?

..L.T.A.

Jan 2, 2023 | 12:27 AM

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Burbur2

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In July RKS 27k OTD wasnt cheap but they gave me 20k trade in value for my 2019 Heritage 114” with 20k miles on it so I coudnt refuse such upgrade for 7500$ for new RKS with RDRS and 7 miles on the clock. To this day I wonder if it was good deal so maybe someone tell me as it felt fair at the tome as it was peak of “no bikes at the showroom floor” era where trade in values were nuts.

Jan 2, 2023 | 08:45 AM

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adm

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Originally Posted by Cap77

Yes it does. 20% VAT is included in the listed price. As is every other fee (although there aren't many - just a freight surcharge and dealer prep).

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Jan 2, 2023 | 08:47 AM

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adm

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Originally Posted by Cap77

wow.
Thanks Rab

so if I have this right, with 20% VAT tax in that $21k , the Harley dealer in UK sold a new Low Rider ST for $16k?!?!?

..L.T.A.

More like $17.5K (17.5K * 1.2 = 21K)

Jan 2, 2023 | 10:10 AM

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JSCHWAG

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Well the best I can find for a 2022 Low Rider S in grey is $22281 OTD. There aren’t many left at the dealers. Really wanted an ST but they are all but gone and the ones left are going for $31k to $32k. I would travel further but I need the California emissions to get passed DMV.

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