Decibel Law
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I might be mistaken, but I think you were looking for the Goldwing forum . . .
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Road Captain
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That's a classic.....thank you
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NY has to prove 1) that it was you operating the bike, and 2) it was your bike alone that made the noise that triggered the meter, and not another vehicle, horn, etc. No camera on a pole is going to prove anything if you are wearing a helmet and no exposed ink. Just a waste of resources that will get shot down in court - once again.
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Well NYC and NYS have been talking about loud motorcycles since I started riding in the 80's. I have heard all the stories about LEO being equipped with decibel meters, safety stops etc. I have never been hassled in over 30 years for loud pipes except once in Key West, another story.
I would be interested in seeing the technology in these meters that can pin point where the sound is coming from, being your motorcycle and not the truck next to you. The red light cameras and speeding cameras they send you a link with the video and you can see your vehicle. Hard to argue when you see your car make the right with out first coming to a complete stop and waiting 3 seconds. Lots of people have tried to fight the tickets, I really have not heard about anyone being successful. Most just pay it because as stated before, no points against your license because they do not know who was driving and at $85, pay the fine and just keep moving.
I also do not understand the extreme cost of the fine. At the end of the day it is just an equipment ticket, the aforementioned loud pipes in Florida coast me $10. How did we get to over $2k for an equipment violation. All I can say is stay away from the monitored areas until it gets sorted or removed. Totally a money grab focused on people like us. Most of the people that are the real 2 AM issue do not have plates on their bikes and if they do they are bogus and therefore are not paying any fines.
I would be interested in seeing the technology in these meters that can pin point where the sound is coming from, being your motorcycle and not the truck next to you. The red light cameras and speeding cameras they send you a link with the video and you can see your vehicle. Hard to argue when you see your car make the right with out first coming to a complete stop and waiting 3 seconds. Lots of people have tried to fight the tickets, I really have not heard about anyone being successful. Most just pay it because as stated before, no points against your license because they do not know who was driving and at $85, pay the fine and just keep moving.
I also do not understand the extreme cost of the fine. At the end of the day it is just an equipment ticket, the aforementioned loud pipes in Florida coast me $10. How did we get to over $2k for an equipment violation. All I can say is stay away from the monitored areas until it gets sorted or removed. Totally a money grab focused on people like us. Most of the people that are the real 2 AM issue do not have plates on their bikes and if they do they are bogus and therefore are not paying any fines.
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Did they change the placement of the meter also? Because used to specify how far from center line of road etc. sounds like a fightable ticket if not and then you got calibration issues, how are they isolating the background noise?
the first ticket not worth paying a lawyer, but that second one! I been out of NY for 6 month now anyway
the first ticket not worth paying a lawyer, but that second one! I been out of NY for 6 month now anyway
Probably a civil infraction where the nuances of the criminal courts is no longer a necessity.
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License impairments in NY went from $65 to $300
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NY has to prove 1) that it was you operating the bike, and 2) it was your bike alone that made the noise that triggered the meter, and not another vehicle, horn, etc. No camera on a pole is going to prove anything if you are wearing a helmet and no exposed ink. Just a waste of resources that will get shot down in court - once again.