Could this be a turning point?
However, these two, Allan Goldston and Troy Alstead also need to removed.
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H Partners said Zeitz should be removed immediately and voted off the companys board of directors, along with board members Thomas Linebarger and Sara Levinson, according to a filing.
The current board, which is tightly controlled by a small number of entrenched board members, cannot be trusted to oversee crucial decisions, including CEO succession, H Partners said.
H Partners, which owns 11.3 million shares, or about 9%, of Harley-Davidsons stock, said the company should name an interim CEO until an external candidate can be chosen.
Harley-Davidsons current management team said it is committed to acting in the interests of all of Harley-Davidsons shareholders by continuing to strengthen the companys foundation for the future and selecting the right CEO to lead Harley-Davidson into its next chapter.
It seems businesses are more successful when you promote loyal employees from within.
The only reason I see to bring in outside help is if you want to dismantle a business.
Your bike is beautiful. I always loose track of my thoughts in a thread that your bike is in.
Do you have a larger pic? LOL
Thanks
That is why the entire lot of them need to go.
IMHO that is.
If you're a good worker, you'll get a promotion, which means you'll be doing a different job. Building widgets on an assembly line is an entirely different job and requires an entirely different skillset than managing people who build widgets on an assembly line. If you make the adjustment and are a good manager, you'll get promoted to store manager. Which is an entirely wildly different set of skills, managing the flow of every department rather than managing just the workers you used to work shoulder to shoulder with. But if you pull it off and do a great job, they'll promote you to General Manager. And by that time you're supposed to do profit and loss statements, accounting, forward projections, regulatory compliance, health and welfare benefits, hiring and firing, and on and on. What, exactly, does being a good builder of widgets qualify someone to be general manager?
At some point you're not going to be great at the new job, it's a step too far. So you're screwed, you're stuck in a job you can't do well, and you'll never get promoted again. And the company's screwed, because they lost a great widget builder, a very good manager, and a good store manager, and now they're stuck with a mediocre or incompetent general manager.
You're miserable. They're miserable. The whole "promotion" system is doomed to fail, because good people are promoted up to their level of incompetence.
That's why you don't promote from within. When you're a $3 billion multinational heavy equipment manufacturer and you need a CEO, you should look for the best CEO of a multibillion dollar multinational heavy equipment manager you can find, and if you find a successful one who also happens to love motorcycles, that's who you hire.
If you're a multibillion dollar multinational motorcycle maker, what you DON'T DO is hire a CEO climate zealot who wants to ban all fossil fuels and eradicate all gasoline engine vehicles and who pisses away all your money on electric motorcycles that nobody wants and closes hundreds of dealerships, who has a stated goal of selling fewer motorcycles!
Last edited by FatBob2018; Apr 24, 2025 at 11:08 AM.
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we need a couple of folks for a specific role....leaders
of those that they'll lead, there are none with the experience and skill set that we need...they are good in their roles, but not leadership material.....sure one of them would love to lead.....but it would be cruel to set them up for failure in a place they do not belong
sometimes you have to look outside your org for new talent....by and large, I agree with 'promote from within' but any truth taken to an extreme becomes perversion
Look up Peter's Principal....it's another perspective
I don't think HD needs a sensible leader from inside the industry....they just need sensible leaders....regardless of where they came from











