These are the first thing I thouht of when I saw the post, too...maybe they'll fit on dude's do-rag and he'll be good to go?

 

Unless I missed something, he didn't say anything bad about helmets (just the laws.) I feel that you're about to cram the "everyone should wear a helmet" thing down people's throats, which isn't cool. I choose to wear a helmet in a state that doesn't require them, but I won't preach at someone that chooses not to wear one. I don't want them teasing me about wearing one either.

Chris

 

prolly should get one of these ....just to be sure

 

Did I say I was against helmets? Nope. I just said LAWS that mandate them are bullshit. Let the rider make their choice and deal with any potential consequences that arise. For the record, if given the choice (which I am not up here in Canada), I choose NOT to wear a lid, but I don't have any negative opinions of those who DO choose to wear them.

Have you ever ridden without a helmet? I have an ACC DOT shorty lid, that is as small and light as they come, and I can tell you that there's a huge difference when I am in a free choice state and I go lidless. As small as the ACC lid is, it still catches wind, which over time causes the muscles in my neck and shoulders to get aggravated, which causes fatigue. If there's a strong headwind or crosswind, it's even worse. When riding lidless even into a strong head or cross wind, I don't get that pain, nor fatigue that comes from it. The lid makes the wind rush past my ears so that if I don't wear earplugs while riding on the highway, it's painful and I get ringing in my ears within 10 minutes. With no lid, I can (and HAVE) cruise along at 75+ mph and hear myself talk (I actually tested that). The wind noise is almost non-existent. Those are some major advantages in my book. However, I also accept that I may get hurt worse in a crash if I happen to land on my noggin while not wearing a helmet.

I would turn my headlight on even if it wasn't automatic, but yes I am opposed to it being mandated - again, let the rider decide. Headlights, like loud pipes, are preventative measures that help you to be seen and thus help to avoid getting wrecked by cagers. Helmets are reactive, and only useful if you happen to go down, and even then, not always. Keep in mind that in most motorcycle fatalities, the rider WAS wearing a lid (and I'm not saying the lid killed them, just that it didn't do anything to prevent their deaths).

In the end, it should be up to the individual to assess the risks and benefits, and make their choice.

Cheers!
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Where do people get this bit of info? Sometimes the people that actually argue against wearing a helmet make no sense. I don't see how anyone can rationalize that wearing a helmet isn't safer for the rider. It's OBVIOUSLY safer to anyone with common sense (not saying you don't have any.)

UnlessI haddata to support statements like that, I wouldn't make them. That's just how I roll. Maybe"most" motorcycle fatalities were all at high speeds where a helmet doesn't make a difference? If that's the case, the fact that "most" fatalities involved riders with helmets isn't even valid.

Common sense... In a low speed crash where a person hits their head on the pavement, they have a better chance of not getting hurt if they're wearing a helmet. I don't have data to support that either, but c'mon, I don't need an expert to tell me a rabbit is a rabbit. Common sense.

 

But I agree that it should be the individuals choice. I just happen to chose to weara helmet on the bikeand a seatbelt in my car (for my family more than anything else.)

 

The only good thing that would come with a helmet law (in my opinion) is to stop guys from making fun of guys that wear them. Nobody has given me **** yet, but I know it will happen and I'll let them have it when it does. My choice. EAT MY ***

Chris

 

..Umm the "Hurt Report" says plain as day neck injuries were LOWER with helmet wearing riders involved in accidents..

Median pre accident speed was 35mphs..impact speed was 25-30mph if I rememeber correctly....

You know..I can hear myself talk in my full face helmet...

Also if you would turn on your headlight yourself in the daytime....why complain about "rider choice" if it jsut hlep lower your insurance rate by making the guy safer..that otherwise wouldnt...

Yes I have ridden without a helmet...I feel..naked ..without it...kinda like not wearing a seatbelt in a car....

Haha...and go ahead and make fun of me for wearing a helmet....I'll just poke fun right back for you not wearing one..a law won't change that.....haha

 

sa motorcycle fatalities helmet Re-read what I wrote. I said that in most motorcycles fatalities, the rider was wearing a helmet. I didn't say it contributed to their deaths, only that it did NOT prevent it. That's a plain fact - had these people not been wearing helmets, they'd have been just as dead. The helmet made NO difference.

To illustrate: according to the NHTSA, for 2006 there were a total of 4810 motorcyle fatalities. Of those 4810 deaths, 2792 riders were wearing helmets. 2792/4810 = 58%, which is "most". So of all the MC deaths in 2006, most of the riders killed were wearing lids.

I'm NOT arguing whether or not wearing a lid is "safer". I'm only saying that it should be up to the rider to choose whether or not to wear one, and showing that helmets often aren't the difference maker in MC deaths.

Nothing is safer than not getting into the wreck in the first place!

Cheers!
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Also about motorcycle fatalities with lids....actually its a little over 50% fatalities without them....and a little under 50% with them on...there is another thread on here(not started by me) that confirms this with data