Riding in a pack.
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From: Ingleside Texas
RE: Riding in a pack.
When I take the chapter to a run, we ride staggered, all Prospects or Guests ridein the middle towards the frontand do as i say (NO QUESTIONS ASKED),,,I have a tailgunner that i trust and will be there,,we ride in a pretty tight formation in order to keep others out..I am in charge to and from the run, what I say GOES..If you F**K UP your out on your A$$,,,,
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RE: Riding in a pack.
ORIGINAL: Intrepid175
I've found myself in similar circumstances. If we're getting into the twisty stuff, I don't mind it so much as I can ride my own pace and line without having to worry about what the guy in front of me is doing. In more open situations, it's not nearly as much fun. I've had them sliding by me with the rear wheel locked more times than I care to remember because they weren't paying attention.
I've found myself in similar circumstances. If we're getting into the twisty stuff, I don't mind it so much as I can ride my own pace and line without having to worry about what the guy in front of me is doing. In more open situations, it's not nearly as much fun. I've had them sliding by me with the rear wheel locked more times than I care to remember because they weren't paying attention.
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From: Illinois
RE: Riding in a pack.
I usually ride with a small group two to four and always staggered. If we have more riders new or less experienced we ask them to ride in the middle. I always ask how long they have been riding?
If the answer is (not long). I always asked if they have been tought how to counter steer?
If not I always offer to give a short lesson. I always feel safer when the riders around me can handle curves and basic avaisive actions.
If the answer is (not long). I always asked if they have been tought how to counter steer?
If not I always offer to give a short lesson. I always feel safer when the riders around me can handle curves and basic avaisive actions.
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RE: Riding in a pack.
ORIGINAL: Chambeaux
With a stance like yours, you can be assured you will always ride alone whether you like it or not.
ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer
Personally, right down the middle of the lane. My view is that a motorcycle is entitled to an entire lane and I do not wish to do anything that encourages anyone to believe otherwise. I do not split lanes, I don't share lanes. If it looks like someone is going to attempt to pass me I move to the centerline to make sure they get over in the other lane to pass. If it looks like some kid on the crotch rocket is going to try to pass me in my lane I"ll weave down the road to discourage that thought. I stop at stoplights dead center. I take curves from the edge line to the center line and back to the edge line. I read the rules of the road and I don't remember anything in it about motorcycles having deminished rights. Do not expect me to surrender any part of my lane to you.
Personally, right down the middle of the lane. My view is that a motorcycle is entitled to an entire lane and I do not wish to do anything that encourages anyone to believe otherwise. I do not split lanes, I don't share lanes. If it looks like someone is going to attempt to pass me I move to the centerline to make sure they get over in the other lane to pass. If it looks like some kid on the crotch rocket is going to try to pass me in my lane I"ll weave down the road to discourage that thought. I stop at stoplights dead center. I take curves from the edge line to the center line and back to the edge line. I read the rules of the road and I don't remember anything in it about motorcycles having deminished rights. Do not expect me to surrender any part of my lane to you.
Personally, seeing how many bikes you can pack in how small a space at how high a speed is for the kiddies doing burnouts at the stoplights, riding wheelies off the line and hitting 80 mph before stopping at the next light two blocks away. It doesn't take one idiot to wipe out a pack, but rather a pack of idiots. If one bike wiping out wipes out the whole pack then you're all idiots. There isn't any reason to ride like that other than "it's cool", just like doing burnouts at stoplights.
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RE: Riding in a pack.
ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer
That's the general idea. If I wanted to ride next to someone I would have taken the car. As far as I'm concerned you on your bike and me on mine is not one tiny bit differant than me in my car and you in yours. If you want to socialize then we'll do it at the next stop. I most certainly don't want you next to me and if you're not next to me then what's the point of it being ten feet rather than a hundred feet between bikes?
Personally, seeing how many bikes you can pack in how small a space at how high a speed is for the kiddies doing burnouts at the stoplights, riding wheelies off the line and hitting 80 mph before stopping at the next light two blocks away. It doesn't take one idiot to wipe out a pack, but rather a pack of idiots. If one bike wiping out wipes out the whole pack then you're all idiots. There isn't any reason to ride like that other than "it's cool", just like doing burnouts at stoplights.
ORIGINAL: Chambeaux
With a stance like yours, you can be assured you will always ride alone whether you like it or not.
ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer
Personally, right down the middle of the lane. My view is that a motorcycle is entitled to an entire lane and I do not wish to do anything that encourages anyone to believe otherwise. I do not split lanes, I don't share lanes. If it looks like someone is going to attempt to pass me I move to the centerline to make sure they get over in the other lane to pass. If it looks like some kid on the crotch rocket is going to try to pass me in my lane I"ll weave down the road to discourage that thought. I stop at stoplights dead center. I take curves from the edge line to the center line and back to the edge line. I read the rules of the road and I don't remember anything in it about motorcycles having deminished rights. Do not expect me to surrender any part of my lane to you.
Personally, right down the middle of the lane. My view is that a motorcycle is entitled to an entire lane and I do not wish to do anything that encourages anyone to believe otherwise. I do not split lanes, I don't share lanes. If it looks like someone is going to attempt to pass me I move to the centerline to make sure they get over in the other lane to pass. If it looks like some kid on the crotch rocket is going to try to pass me in my lane I"ll weave down the road to discourage that thought. I stop at stoplights dead center. I take curves from the edge line to the center line and back to the edge line. I read the rules of the road and I don't remember anything in it about motorcycles having deminished rights. Do not expect me to surrender any part of my lane to you.
Personally, seeing how many bikes you can pack in how small a space at how high a speed is for the kiddies doing burnouts at the stoplights, riding wheelies off the line and hitting 80 mph before stopping at the next light two blocks away. It doesn't take one idiot to wipe out a pack, but rather a pack of idiots. If one bike wiping out wipes out the whole pack then you're all idiots. There isn't any reason to ride like that other than "it's cool", just like doing burnouts at stoplights.
and "it's cool".
RE: Riding in a pack.
I ride alone or with a small group of friends that I trust. Other than that, fuggettaboutit! Years ago, I used to ride with predominately sportbike crowd. The main rule was the fast guys go up front, slower/less experienced towards the back. The fast guys were usually current and past AMA/WERA roadracers or instructors. The Mother Hen position (last) was taken by an experienced person who made sure we didn't loose anyone along the way. Noobs were repeatedly reminded to ride within their abilities. Sometimes they even listened. Other times Mother Hen would have to chastise them or pull them out of the ditches. It was a simple system, but it worked as long as folks stayed withing their limits. Like Dirty Harry said, 'a man's got to know his limitations'....
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RE: Riding in a pack.
Personally, I ride the ditch side,it gives me the feeling I have an escape route.
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From: Ontario
RE: Riding in a pack.
ORIGINAL: darkside
This being America and all ,you have the right to say what you want (Behind your keyboard)[sm=laughat.gif]But some of us have the right to ride in a pack,since we know how to ride,
and "it's cool".
ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer
That's the general idea. If I wanted to ride next to someone I would have taken the car. As far as I'm concerned you on your bike and me on mine is not one tiny bit differant than me in my car and you in yours. If you want to socialize then we'll do it at the next stop. I most certainly don't want you next to me and if you're not next to me then what's the point of it being ten feet rather than a hundred feet between bikes?
Personally, seeing how many bikes you can pack in how small a space at how high a speed is for the kiddies doing burnouts at the stoplights, riding wheelies off the line and hitting 80 mph before stopping at the next light two blocks away. It doesn't take one idiot to wipe out a pack, but rather a pack of idiots. If one bike wiping out wipes out the whole pack then you're all idiots. There isn't any reason to ride like that other than "it's cool", just like doing burnouts at stoplights.
ORIGINAL: Chambeaux
With a stance like yours, you can be assured you will always ride alone whether you like it or not.
ORIGINAL: LilBudyWizer
Personally, right down the middle of the lane. My view is that a motorcycle is entitled to an entire lane and I do not wish to do anything that encourages anyone to believe otherwise. I do not split lanes, I don't share lanes. If it looks like someone is going to attempt to pass me I move to the centerline to make sure they get over in the other lane to pass. If it looks like some kid on the crotch rocket is going to try to pass me in my lane I"ll weave down the road to discourage that thought. I stop at stoplights dead center. I take curves from the edge line to the center line and back to the edge line. I read the rules of the road and I don't remember anything in it about motorcycles having deminished rights. Do not expect me to surrender any part of my lane to you.
Personally, right down the middle of the lane. My view is that a motorcycle is entitled to an entire lane and I do not wish to do anything that encourages anyone to believe otherwise. I do not split lanes, I don't share lanes. If it looks like someone is going to attempt to pass me I move to the centerline to make sure they get over in the other lane to pass. If it looks like some kid on the crotch rocket is going to try to pass me in my lane I"ll weave down the road to discourage that thought. I stop at stoplights dead center. I take curves from the edge line to the center line and back to the edge line. I read the rules of the road and I don't remember anything in it about motorcycles having deminished rights. Do not expect me to surrender any part of my lane to you.
Personally, seeing how many bikes you can pack in how small a space at how high a speed is for the kiddies doing burnouts at the stoplights, riding wheelies off the line and hitting 80 mph before stopping at the next light two blocks away. It doesn't take one idiot to wipe out a pack, but rather a pack of idiots. If one bike wiping out wipes out the whole pack then you're all idiots. There isn't any reason to ride like that other than "it's cool", just like doing burnouts at stoplights.
and "it's cool".
Not only "cool" it's a thing of beauty watching a pack "in formation" ride by.
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