1 less biker
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From: Danbury CT
RE: 1 less biker
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Golfblues asked my question.
Golfblues asked my question.
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From: NJ
RE: 1 less biker
Problem with those left turns is that if you drive defensively and stop on the yellow because some cager turning left may try to jump the light in front of you, then you get run over by the cager behind you who thinks he can make the light too. Sometimes it's a no win situation for the biker.
I guess it's notalways practical but on the run we did yesterdaywhichwas about 40 mileswith numerous intersections, every one wascontrolled by one of NJ finest.No stops.
I guess it's notalways practical but on the run we did yesterdaywhichwas about 40 mileswith numerous intersections, every one wascontrolled by one of NJ finest.No stops.
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RE: 1 less biker
ORIGINAL: golfblues
That sucks & if I knew the guy I think my day would have ended too. Sad.
What I don't get is:
"( car was turning left on a yellow, the bike had green)"
How could the bike have green when the car had yellow on a left turn? Did the bike try to time the red to green a little to quickly? I missing something here.
That sucks & if I knew the guy I think my day would have ended too. Sad.
What I don't get is:
"( car was turning left on a yellow, the bike had green)"
How could the bike have green when the car had yellow on a left turn? Did the bike try to time the red to green a little to quickly? I missing something here.
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RE: 1 less biker
Some states have a yellow left turn light when oncoming traffic has a green light. Normally there is a little sign that states left turn protected on green. Just something more to confuse you and its not just the old folks, seems everybody has to get to the coffee stand at mach three if they would all just slow down. I treat almost every light as a red as I get to it. Watch 2 or 3 people everyday run red lights but can only get one stopped at a time for their coupon.
Rip life is short enjoy it while your here!
Rip life is short enjoy it while your here!
ORIGINAL: golfblues
That sucks & if I knew the guy I think my day would have ended too. Sad.
What I don't get is:
"( car was turning left on a yellow, the bike had green)"
How could the bike have green when the car had yellow on a left turn? Did the bike try to time the red to green a little to quickly? I missing something here.
That sucks & if I knew the guy I think my day would have ended too. Sad.
What I don't get is:
"( car was turning left on a yellow, the bike had green)"
How could the bike have green when the car had yellow on a left turn? Did the bike try to time the red to green a little to quickly? I missing something here.
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From: Deltona, FL
RE: 1 less biker
ORIGINAL: DeJavu
Don't just get on the old folks, a 19 yr old girl took me out with an unsignalled, no warning left turn into a ranch entrance on a 2 lane country road. Inexperienced, oblivious teenagers are just as capable of killing you as a 70+ driver. My first collision in 45+ yrs riding.
ORIGINAL: Dr_J
Not only stiffer penalties, but actual driving exam requirements past a certain age... not trying to be a dick, but many older folks should NOT be driving in their condition (diminished response, sight, hearing etc...)... but if they renew their license within the required time... no retesting etc.... I can't tell you how many little old folks scare me into leaving a biscuit in my shorts whiles't riding near them and paying close attention to them.
Not only stiffer penalties, but actual driving exam requirements past a certain age... not trying to be a dick, but many older folks should NOT be driving in their condition (diminished response, sight, hearing etc...)... but if they renew their license within the required time... no retesting etc.... I can't tell you how many little old folks scare me into leaving a biscuit in my shorts whiles't riding near them and paying close attention to them.
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RE: 1 less biker
ORIGINAL: wbogley
It is always the "Left turner". I prefer to ride highways because atleast noone is going to come accross your path. Not sure whypeople would back out of the ride. I thought we all know motorcycles are dangous and riders do get killed. I guess this was news to the people that backed out.
It is always the "Left turner". I prefer to ride highways because atleast noone is going to come accross your path. Not sure whypeople would back out of the ride. I thought we all know motorcycles are dangous and riders do get killed. I guess this was news to the people that backed out.
Anyway, feel sorry for the 51 y.o. and his family.
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RE: 1 less biker
In this state (MN) it will not go towards civil penalties. It only happened when the great senator from S.D. hit the biker because he was on gov't bussiness (awarded $1,000,000.00 for bikers wife) Many think that stiffer penalties will not help, I dissagree. If everyone knows that if they hit someone( waling, riding a M.C., in a car or roller blading)and does great bodily harm or death that they would face a stiffer fine than $180.00 they incur nowthey would pay closer attention. If you decide to ride or drive you should be responsible for your actions! This also includes being distracted by cell phones, eating , applying make up etc. Right now there is a case of awoman who hit a bus and killed 4 kids by blowing a stop sign, A illlegle person who has a similar accident 6 monthes ago, no license, ins. so far the only traffic ticket she has is failure to stop and failure to yeild.
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From: New Hampshire
RE: 1 less biker
As I sit here recovering from a crash that was all my fault, I can see why some may have gone home instead of complete the ride. You need to be able to concentrate when riding. Especially group riding. I left the morning of my ride pissed off at my wife. Went too fast into the turn and dumped it. Two ribs and a bruised hip. I knew I would be OK, but I also knew my wife would be pissed. Lesson learned.
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From: Minneapolis, MN
RE: 1 less biker
Not to be a negative ninny here, but some of the facts are missing and incorrect.
First, he was 61, not 51. http://www.startribune.com/local/wes...r=$sectionName
Second, the intersection (picture below) did have turn lanes and the picture I saw of the car the entire side was caved in all the way to the center console. My question, how fast was the biker going, he was in downtown Rockford?
It doesn't excuse cagers from irresponsible decisions, but I've already witnessed this biking season some very bad behavior by some of my biker friends coming out of a long winter of hibernation.
We all need to be more careful and ride defensively.
First, he was 61, not 51. http://www.startribune.com/local/wes...r=$sectionName
Second, the intersection (picture below) did have turn lanes and the picture I saw of the car the entire side was caved in all the way to the center console. My question, how fast was the biker going, he was in downtown Rockford?
It doesn't excuse cagers from irresponsible decisions, but I've already witnessed this biking season some very bad behavior by some of my biker friends coming out of a long winter of hibernation.
We all need to be more careful and ride defensively.
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From: Ma
RE: 1 less biker
ORIGINAL: golfblues
That sucks & if I knew the guy I think my day would have ended too. Sad.
What I don't get is:
"( car was turning left on a yellow, the bike had green)"
How could the bike have green when the car had yellow on a left turn? Did the bike try to time the red to green a little to quickly? I missing something here.
That sucks & if I knew the guy I think my day would have ended too. Sad.
What I don't get is:
"( car was turning left on a yellow, the bike had green)"
How could the bike have green when the car had yellow on a left turn? Did the bike try to time the red to green a little to quickly? I missing something here.