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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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1st gear clutch in also.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesGirl
I was always told to be in neutral when stopped. That's what I do in my cars and that's what I'll probably do on my bike. If you keep it in gear you still have the chance that you'll stall, so that's no guarantee that you will avoid being rear ended.

If a car is going to rear end me, he's going to rear end me. Contrary to popular belief, I don't have eyes in the back of my head. I've been in an accident where I was stopped at a light and the car behind me didn't stop. I have experience drag racing, I can get my @ss off the line in a hurry just not fast enough to avoid an accident I guess. Oh well that's life.

Before anyone flames me, take a look at my sig line. Learning to fall before you ride means you have to get over your fear before you can really enjoy something. Just my .02
So you are saying to ignore good safety practices and get over the fear? Sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. Practicing safe riding does not imply fear - it implies intelligence, experience and common sense.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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I'm always in first gear and ready to go.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mjunk1
Don't generally do that. Sometimes I will go into neutral if it going to be a long wait, but ONLY if a cage has safely stopped behind me. Otherwise I like to have it in gear so I have an escape mode if the idiot coming up to the light behind me doesn't see me. I've heard of people being rear-ended sitting at lights, so it seems like the extra effort might be worth while. You might not need to move far, just a little left or right to avoid getting slammed.
+1 I was always told to never put it in neutral...for that very reason. But I am sure with a lot more time in the saddle.....I too will join the "N" habit.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesGirl
I was always told to be in neutral when stopped. Someone told you wrong! That's what I do in my cars and that's what I'll probably do on my bike. Hope you change your mind. If you keep it in gear you still have the chance that you'll stall, so that's no guarantee that you will avoid being rear ended. Seems to me that you would have more of a chance at stalling it if you had to 1)pull the clutch in, 2)put it in first gear, 3)and then take off, vs. 1)TAKE OFF!!! It's more about risk management than a guarantee.

If a car is going to rear end me, he's going to rear end me. I would hope that you would do everything to try and avoid a rear end collision. I would hate to get slammed if it could have been avoided. Contrary to popular belief, I don't have eyes in the back of my head. That's what the mirrors are for!!! I've been in an accident where I was stopped at a light and the car behind me didn't stop. I have experience drag racing, I can get my @ss off the line in a hurry just not fast enough to avoid an accident I guess. I wonder if you leave your race car in neutral until the green lights come on??? Oh well that's life.

Before anyone flames me, take a look at my sig line. Learning to fall before you ride means you have to get over your fear before you can really enjoy something. Just my .02
I believe that you should always have some fear just to keep yourself in check. If I got slammed from the rear, it's doubtful that would eliminate any fears I had about being hit from behind. I would probably fear it more. By the way, I enjoy my bike, even in the rain, I'm just more cautious.


Do yourself a favor, take the MSF course. I hope that you will take my comments in goodwill as nobody on this forum would like to see you become another statistic.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mjunk1
Don't generally do that. Sometimes I will go into neutral if it going to be a long wait, but ONLY if a cage has safely stopped behind me. Otherwise I like to have it in gear so I have an escape mode if the idiot coming up to the light behind me doesn't see me. I've heard of people being rear-ended sitting at lights, so it seems like the extra effort might be worth while. You might not need to move far, just a little left or right to avoid getting slammed.
Ditto...I only go to neutral if it's a long wait and I'm sure the cagers behind me are safely stopped.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DavesGirl
I was always told to be in neutral when stopped. That's what I do in my cars and that's what I'll probably do on my bike. If you keep it in gear you still have the chance that you'll stall, so that's no guarantee that you will avoid being rear ended.

If a car is going to rear end me, he's going to rear end me. Contrary to popular belief, I don't have eyes in the back of my head. I've been in an accident where I was stopped at a light and the car behind me didn't stop. I have experience drag racing, I can get my @ss off the line in a hurry just not fast enough to avoid an accident I guess. Oh well that's life.

Before anyone flames me, take a look at my sig line. Learning to fall before you ride means you have to get over your fear before you can really enjoy something. Just my .02
No flame intended here but the reason you have two mirrors (most bikes) is so that you do kinda have eyes in the back of your head. I am always checking the mirrirs at stop lights and stop signs because you never know what the person coming up behind you is doing. They may be distracted or fixated on the light that may have been red and has just turned green so they hit the gas and never see you! I have witnessed this happen and have almost had it happened to me!
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by larry harding
i have been riding for many years and developed a habit that i wonder if i am the only one who has it. if i see a traffic light turning red as i approach i wil go to neutral and let the clutch out until i see the cross light go to caution then pull, the clutch and shift to 1st. maybe i'm just too lazy to hold the clutch in but any time i'm stopped for more than a few seconds i go to neutral especially some of these compound intersections where the light may be a minute or more before turning green again. am i wierd or is this common practice?
I do that too, caught myself thinking about why the other day. I decided it was because of being concerned if while holding the clutch I experience a clutch related failure it would launch me into the treee trimming truck just in front of me at the time. You know the truck that has the lift protruding a little before the rear bumper so if you did lurch forward it would hit you in the face before the front wheel of the bike hit the rear bumper of the truck. Murphies law and all that.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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Once cars have come to rest behind me and things have stabilized then I go into neutral. Some of the lights around here are 2 to 3 minutes long I swear.
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Neutral thank you,already had the thrill of clutch cable breaking,launching me into traffic.Lost frontend,pick-up that hit me ,trying to miss me sideswipped another car,stopped came to check on me.Good people,nobody hurt.Frontend whipped so fast throttle side almost broke my left hand,and no-one was speeding.Narrow city streets will get you.No matter what the advertising there is no such thing as a lifetime clutch cable.
 



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