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But also because the center of a lane at an intersection is where every car, truck, or baby carriage has dripped oil or other fluids. The junk dumped can often make it very slick, especially if it rains or its fresh.
Try dropping the hammer to get out in a hurry and you happen to be in or have rolled through a puddle of oil or anti-freeze and you might just wind up UNDER that cage your trying to escape from.
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You guys can do what you want but I never go to neutral unless I'm gonna be able to hold the clutch in long enough to allow the main drive gear to slow down. In neutral the MDG is turning the same rpm as the engine. Not allowing enough time, from neutral to gear engagement, dulls or knocks the points off the gears dog teeth which can and if done long enough will result in harsh shifts.
As the points are dulled this material makes it way in to the oil which can cause premature bearing failure. This coming from someone with thirty years experience designing and building transmissions and gear boxes.
But then again, just my $.02........
As the points are dulled this material makes it way in to the oil which can cause premature bearing failure. This coming from someone with thirty years experience designing and building transmissions and gear boxes.
But then again, just my $.02........
Road Master
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Bwahhhaaahhaa......
Throwout Bearing????......I'll bet there aren't over 20 people on this board that know what a throwout bearing is, let alone replaced one.......used to have to replace shifting forks periodically in my old Chevy truck with the four-speed from shifting without the clutch all the tijme.......
Throwout Bearing????......I'll bet there aren't over 20 people on this board that know what a throwout bearing is, let alone replaced one.......used to have to replace shifting forks periodically in my old Chevy truck with the four-speed from shifting without the clutch all the tijme.......
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Unless the car behind me is stopped, I don't sit at an intersection in neutral. I've got the clutch in, bike in 1st, and ready to get out of someone else's way if need be. It's my "just in case" thinking that helps me avoid being a statistic -- at least so far......
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I agree with mjunk1. Waiting, definately neutral, and waiting is not the duration of the light. Traffic tie-ups, accidents and such neutral. You should not have to make the deliberate decesion to shift into gear if you need to get your butt out of the way, just another second or two you may not have.
As for rolling up to a light the gear stays engaged until I come to a complete stop, but I will go into first on the downshift if need be and just feather the clutch to keep the bike from lurching. If you play your fiction zone correctly you can bring the bike down to a virutal crawl and use up the space between you and the car in front or the end of the lane before the light changes. A quick punch of the throttle and your gone if need be.
As for rolling up to a light the gear stays engaged until I come to a complete stop, but I will go into first on the downshift if need be and just feather the clutch to keep the bike from lurching. If you play your fiction zone correctly you can bring the bike down to a virutal crawl and use up the space between you and the car in front or the end of the lane before the light changes. A quick punch of the throttle and your gone if need be.
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Do the math:
@ 45 mph a cage will travel 66 feet per second. It will probably take you 2 seconds to pull the clutch in and get first gear once you realize the situation. By then the cage has already covered 132 ft or about 10 car lengths. If you always keep your bike in first, you've afforded yourself more reaction time to get out the way in this scenario.
Also, if the car behind you gets slammed, you can still be in trouble if you are in neutral. I got rearended like that in my truck once.
@ 45 mph a cage will travel 66 feet per second. It will probably take you 2 seconds to pull the clutch in and get first gear once you realize the situation. By then the cage has already covered 132 ft or about 10 car lengths. If you always keep your bike in first, you've afforded yourself more reaction time to get out the way in this scenario.
Also, if the car behind you gets slammed, you can still be in trouble if you are in neutral. I got rearended like that in my truck once.
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It can be a real in my Ranger because they have an all in one slave cylinder/throwout bearing setup. Installing it, hooking it up and bleeding it can be very messy and frustrating.
I was always told to be in neutral when stopped. That's what I do in my cars and that's what I'll probably do on my bike. If you keep it in gear you still have the chance that you'll stall, so that's no guarantee that you will avoid being rear ended.
If a car is going to rear end me, he's going to rear end me. Contrary to popular belief, I don't have eyes in the back of my head. I've been in an accident where I was stopped at a light and the car behind me didn't stop. I have experience drag racing, I can get my @ss off the line in a hurry just not fast enough to avoid an accident I guess. Oh well that's life.
Before anyone flames me, take a look at my sig line. Learning to fall before you ride means you have to get over your fear before you can really enjoy something. Just my .02
If a car is going to rear end me, he's going to rear end me. Contrary to popular belief, I don't have eyes in the back of my head. I've been in an accident where I was stopped at a light and the car behind me didn't stop. I have experience drag racing, I can get my @ss off the line in a hurry just not fast enough to avoid an accident I guess. Oh well that's life.
Before anyone flames me, take a look at my sig line. Learning to fall before you ride means you have to get over your fear before you can really enjoy something. Just my .02