View Poll Results: Is your HD fast enough?
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To HD R&D will we pay for more speed???
Road Master
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,112
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From: southeast pa
As for the sport vs ride, style, lifestyle whatever debate... I come from the sport bike world.. if I wanted a race bike I'd still be riding one.. As it is, I'll keep my RKC thank you.. besides the harley vs metric debate has been beaten to death.. no need to go there again... I'll admit though.. my dream would be for Harley to make the 110 screamin' eagle motor and pipes.. along with stuff like heated seats and grips.. etc.. options you could order from the factory.. that way we, as buyers could choose.. I love the CVO ultra.. but 36 K is a big chunk of dough.. 25 or 26 K for an ultra with the 110.. and a few other options I could pick.. would be a whole lot better for me.. Just my two cents..
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Road Warrior
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,775
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From: Simpson County Kentucky
The VRod is a failure due to it's horrid styling and awkward proportions. If you put that engine in something that is actually appealing more people would be buying them.
I think they should at least make an attempt to equal or better their Japanese and American competition in terms of HP & torque without having to spend 30K on a CVO or 5-10K at an engine builder.
I think they should at least make an attempt to equal or better their Japanese and American competition in terms of HP & torque without having to spend 30K on a CVO or 5-10K at an engine builder.
Harley need not attempt to equal or better the metrics, it's not a metric, it's a Harley and many like them just the way they are. Now, if you want to go fast, I here tell many of the dealers who still have the Destroyer laying around are cutting then loose for like $20,000.
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,592
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From: Florida
As crapshooter pointed out, the factory did build a race only bike....but who cares? If you can't ride it on the street it serves most people no purpose. As far as comparing HD bikes to metrics, I'm a little confused by some of the statements here. The typical TC bike is quicker and faster than most of it's jap competition in the same class (air-cooled vtwin cruiser) and, I have experienced, it's faster than at least some of the liquid cooled bikes. I remember how ticked off a young friend of mine was a few years ago when I smoked his *** from a roll at 65....and I had a passenger! LOL He went out and got carb work done, cam, air cleaner, dyno tune and then wanted to do a quarter mile drag. I pulled about a half bike on him with every shift! This was on my internally stock 05 88" TC Nightrain. It had a PCIII, Hypercharger, and V&H BSS. He was riding a liquid coold jap vtwin 1500. LOL He now rides a sport bike...like I said, he's young.
I think the MoCo could step up and give us a little more power from the factory, but the problem is probably going to be the EPA and warranty issues. Every performance upgrade you do is going to stress the engine and drive more than stock so warranty issues will most likely be higher. They have their hands full enough already with everyone crying about a noisy 5th gear LOL. Has anyone heard of one of these noisy transmissions actually failing?
P.S. The V-rod is no failure....I see them everywhere I go!
I think the MoCo could step up and give us a little more power from the factory, but the problem is probably going to be the EPA and warranty issues. Every performance upgrade you do is going to stress the engine and drive more than stock so warranty issues will most likely be higher. They have their hands full enough already with everyone crying about a noisy 5th gear LOL. Has anyone heard of one of these noisy transmissions actually failing?
P.S. The V-rod is no failure....I see them everywhere I go!
Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,810
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From: Out and about
Yes, and many more want increased performance. I don't think there is a person on the planet that would complain if Harley were to add another 10-20% more power to their lineup.
Nobody said it was a "metric", only that it would be nice if they would attempt to match their engine performance without having to spend ridiculous amounts for engine work or CVO models. If people didn't want more performance then why are a large majority spending lots of money on air intakes, fuel management, exhaust, cams, etc...
Nobody said it was a "metric", only that it would be nice if they would attempt to match their engine performance without having to spend ridiculous amounts for engine work or CVO models. If people didn't want more performance then why are a large majority spending lots of money on air intakes, fuel management, exhaust, cams, etc...
The V-Rod sales in the US market may have not been what was expected but the market here in the US is rather purist so much of what the technology based V-rod is wouldn't have been well received by the general Harley owner. However, the European market has received the bike quite well.
Harley need not attempt to equal or better the metrics, it's not a metric, it's a Harley and many like them just the way they are. Now, if you want to go fast, I here tell many of the dealers who still have the Destroyer laying around are cutting then loose for like $20,000.
Harley need not attempt to equal or better the metrics, it's not a metric, it's a Harley and many like them just the way they are. Now, if you want to go fast, I here tell many of the dealers who still have the Destroyer laying around are cutting then loose for like $20,000.
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,210
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From: Elk Grove Village,Il.
Yes, and many more want increased performance. I don't think there is a person on the planet that would complain if Harley were to add another 10-20% more power to their lineup.
Nobody said it was a "metric", only that it would be nice if they would attempt to match their engine performance without having to spend ridiculous amounts for engine work or CVO models. If people didn't want more performance then why are a large majority spending lots of money on air intakes, fuel management, exhaust, cams, etc...
Nobody said it was a "metric", only that it would be nice if they would attempt to match their engine performance without having to spend ridiculous amounts for engine work or CVO models. If people didn't want more performance then why are a large majority spending lots of money on air intakes, fuel management, exhaust, cams, etc...
Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 658
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From: Aldergrove BC, Canada
I have gone from "fast" in a straight line to "quick" in response, I like superior handling and most of all braking, my money is spent on comfort, and safety
06 Bob the wifes bike-----not fast enough for her
07 FXD my bike ----plenty fast for me, but could be a bit tighter at speed ---working on it--
06 Bob the wifes bike-----not fast enough for her
07 FXD my bike ----plenty fast for me, but could be a bit tighter at speed ---working on it--
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,519
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From: Slidell, LA
Oh yeah more horse power from the factory...more idiots get into wrecks...and all of our insurance rates go up based Harley having more horsepower. I can't wait.
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Big Kahuna HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Calgary eh
Speed is for the race track. Nobody is impressed with a 200mph rice rocket zig zagging down the freeway, it's a statistic waiting to happen. That same dude on a road course in a sanctioned race would most likely get blown away by guys that are actually fast riders on fast bikes.
I'm happy with my scoot, it's got plenty of get up and go.
I'm happy with my scoot, it's got plenty of get up and go.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 321
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From: Indiana
