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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaDrafter
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Thanks guys, I got a wealth of information outta that... I actually agree with you both. You guys have light years of experience on me but, it's nice to pick your brains.

I took MSF and DO use breaks only in an all out emergency, and actually if I know I'm in 5th and no one is around I will hold in the clutch as I'm coasting slowly clicking down thru the gears only using the break to stop. But, most of my riding time so far is in and around downtown Dallas so routine is to apply light break and E-break down thru the gears so I can skeet out of there if need be or grab the clutch and breaks and stop if need be.

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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PHAT A$$
Fairly new to riding and catch myself engine breaking all the way down thru the gears coming up to a red light or stop sign... Does it cause any wear or do anything bad to your engine?

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one time when i was younger and was going down a mountain with my old man in my f150 we discussed this and he said something that totally keeps me from engine braking (unless im in alot of turns on the bike then i just keep the rpms high) he said it is cheaper to replace brake pads any day then to replace a transmission. made 100% sense to me.=D
 
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vatorman
The only time I use engine braking is when I am driving my truck w/trailer down a hill. Why not use the devices designed to slow down your vehicle?

In a racing aspect-you never use engine braking-That is the one time you can over rev your engine and cause major damage. The rev limiter only works in acceleration.
i don't know what kind of racing experience you have, but EVERY form of racing i've ever done, from sprint cars, drag cars, superbikes, motoX, autoX, etc ALL use engine braking. you ALWAYS downshift while braking into a corner.

you never go from a different gear, without going through all the gears between. i.e. from 6th to 2nd, you'd go from 6, then 5, 4, 3, 2. never just straight from 6 to 2. the PROPER way to do that is by downshifting while slowing down.

i've engine braked on all my vehicles for well over 500,000 combined miles, and have never had any problems because of it. not only does it save your brakes, it allows you to slow down faster while braking, and get out of a corner faster.
 
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Harley Joe
I ride an Ultra and use the front brake when I have slowed down from 6th to 5th and I downshift no lower than 4th. The rear tire wear is terrible when you downshift too agressively on the baggers. I rode my Ultra like I did my other bikes and got only 4800 miles out of my first rear tire. Now I don't downshift below 4th gear and my tire wear is much better. This was recommended to me by all the wrenches at the dealership...and they sell tires!!!

But you ride just like you want to....it's your bike
Last 2 skins I pulled of had 32,000 front, and 15,000 rear and would have gone another 2000 on the rear but I got bored and changed tham both. The way you brake does make a tremendous difference in tire wear, especially the rear.

But don't ya just love it when the newbees pull in the clutch at 50mph and coast allllllll the way to a stop then struggle to find any gear at all?
 
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by t150vej
Last 2 skins I pulled of had 32,000 front, and 15,000 rear and would have gone another 2000 on the rear but I got bored and changed tham both. The way you brake does make a tremendous difference in tire wear, especially the rear.

But don't ya just love it when the newbees pull in the clutch at 50mph and coast allllllll the way to a stop then struggle to find any gear at all?
I got a rude awakening on rear tire wear when I got the Ultra. My next tire will be the Dunlop Elite 3. I've heard they wear a little longer than anything I've tried. My problem is overloading the bike. I weigh about 270 and carry about 30 lbs of useless junk with me...but I'll need it if I leave it behind.

I saw in the H-D manual that the MoCo set the weight standards for the Electra Glides, they figured 150 lbs for the rider and 100 lbs for the passenger for a total of 250 max. recommended people weight. They gotta be kidding!!! At 6'5", I'd hate to weigh-in at 150...

I changed my riding habits (reduced/quit downshifting) and my rear tire mileage has increased to about 7500 miles before I have to get a new tire. I'm wondering if the new 09 models will do better on mileage due to the larger tire?
 
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The purpose of a transmission is to match engine RPM's with vehicle speed. Proper downshifting when slowing down or coming to a stop is the correct way to always do it.
 
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only heard that a (HIGH) rpm downshift on a B motor is not really good for the balancers and or crank!.
 
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