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Old May 6, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Angry Explain Lugging and Lurching or what?

I get confused. What are the terms used when when you are in low gear (when you should be in high) and when you are in high gear (when you should be in low). Also does high mean you are in 5th or is it just the opposite? what are the different terms used for an inappropriate gear.
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Lugging = running your bike in to HIGH of a gear for the conditions.
Example: Using 5th or 6th driving down a city street at 30 mph.

Gears: 1st to 6th = Low to High

If you are in too low of a gear (staying in 1st and running too fast), you will be revving the engine too high.
 
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You're serious? With all due respect, you might consider attending a motorcycle training session. I'm not trying to flame you but someone who doesn't know the meaning of high and low gear could use a little training for safety reasons. Just my .02.
 
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Rollo, , pretty much hit the descrip.
Lugging, or as I say "hanging" a motor, is way BAD.
You can determine REAL QWIK if you are lugging a motor. TWIST the troddle quickly, IF the motor does NOT respond as quick, or does NOT respond at all, as you twist, you are lugging the motor. Drop it down a gear. LEARN your speed vs gear selection points.
This is a prob, IMHO, with the 6 speed overdrive trannys. MOST ppl are in 6th, too soon (read that - slow) Get that mph up there a bit, B4 you shift. The scoot will 'like' it, and after you do it a few times, you'll discover, that YOU like it, too. It will perform way betta.

The 'effect' of lugging is the same, or worse, than a TOO SLOW idle. Given the 'design' of our motors, they DO NOT do well under these 'stressful' scenarios. (The design that gives us the NICE tater sound, is also the same design that HATES lugging and slow idle) You can throw the 'wheels' (flywheels) outta time/balance.
Jus' keep the "R's" up there in the 'green band', even tho they sound way nice, when idled down, going, thump.....thump.....thump.
COURSE, if'n you have the $$$, LUG IT.
 

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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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I am sorry, I think that it means that you need to look for an automatic Motorcycle. Are you having problems shifting ?
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Da Gumpmeister
Rollo, , pretty much hit the descrip.
Lugging, or as I say "hanging" a motor, is way BAD.
You can determine REAL QWIK if you are lugging a motor. TWIST the troddle quickly, IF the motor does NOT respond as quick, or does NOT respond at all, as you twist, you are lugging the motor. Drop it down a gear. LEARN your speed vs gear selection points.
This is a prob, IMHO, with the 6 speed overdrive trannys. MOST ppl are in 6th, too soon (read that - slow) Get that mph up there a bit, B4 you shift. The scoot will 'like' it, and after you do it a few times, you'll discover, that YOU like it, too. It will perform way betta.

The 'effect' of lugging is the same, or worse, than a TOO SLOW idle. Given the 'design' of our motors, they DO NOT do well under these 'stressful' scenarios. (The design that gives us the NICE tater sound, is also the same design that HATES lugging and slow idle) You can throw the 'wheels' (flywheels) outta time/balance.
Jus' keep the "R's" up there in the 'green band', even tho they sound way nice, when idled down, going, thump.....thump.....thump.
COURSE, if'n you have the $$$, LUG IT.
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Gumb you were right they did close Ronneby. That is too funny. Did you see the news on channel 11. The guys on the bikes were from our Chapter, part of the Sunday Ride.
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by honestbob
You're serious? With all due respect, you might consider attending a motorcycle training session. I'm not trying to flame you but someone who doesn't know the meaning of high and low gear could use a little training for safety reasons. Just my .02.

Aww cut him a little slack. technically lower gears are numerically higher gear ratios.
 
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Originally Posted by jstreet0204
Aww cut him a little slack. technically lower gears are numerically higher gear ratios.

Exactly, and that is why it confuses a lot of people.
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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Yea. Take it easy on the guy. It was just a rhetorical question. To lug or not to lug and lurch? That is the question. (just listen to your motor).
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cray49a
Yea. Take it easy on the guy. It was just a rhetorical question. To lug or not to lug and lurch? That is the question. (just listen to your motor).
I was cutting him some slack. Just seems to me he could use a WEEEE lil bit of training? But, What do I know? Ride safe.
 



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