Lapis... this is just more proof that you are an ignorant SOB. Tell you what. I will ask my friend at the 8th Precient to open the file and scan in the pictures into the computer so you can see what was left of him when he hit the trailer in the middle of Pulaski Ave in Chicago.

Feel free to think I made it up. I honestly wish I had because I was there to watch the whole f'ing thing. So when the next time you are able to watch a friend of yours (if you have any) more or less disintegrate on contact with a tractor trailer give me a call. Until then **** off.

 

BTW... the skid marks refered to are not the long black lines in TX's picture... The skid marks are the broken up lines that you can see curving off to the left that start in the right lane.

At any rate... This has been beat to death.

 

Now you are making sense......If the skid marks were the long Black lines like you originally stated he would have been going 60 MPH and there would have been more than a 3" dent in the side of the truck. My guess is it was a very slow speed impact......I'm just glad he was able to walk away from the accident........THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!

 

Brakes? What are those?
Oh yeah, I applied full brakes on front and back and did not quite lock them up, but did at the last second to put it down… I am sure everyone here, like myself, have taken both the MSF courses and have practice numerous times panic stops and participate in the friendly “$50 Spot Quick Stop” with some local riders.(which I have actually won on several occasions.)
As I was already on the left side of the right lane (strange thing about the staggered riding formation) and he was coming from my right to my left, it made the most sense to lay it down with the direction the vehicle was coming and not into the direction. The skid mark was short and the gouges from my left rear Kuryakyn Panacea turn signal are quite evident.
Tonight while I was checking on my bike one of my Advanced Riding Course instructors was there and gave me a hearty embrace. He said that for 95%+ of the riders he knows, he would not recommend laying it down as most would not know how to do it correctly and would end up high siding the bike… But as he also pointed out, he doesn’t know anyone else who can do feet up donuts, or other full control maneuvers on their Harley. Hell, I thought everyone could do feet up donuts or lift their rear tire from front braking and weight shifting….
I was going 30 mph when he pulled out (44 fps) and the cop estimated around 22 mph upon impact.
The engine guard did put a nice matching indentation in his door, but most of the damage occurred to his running board, which was bent down, rubber torn off and hanging on…. The dealer is concerned that my frame appears to be 'tweaked' from the impact.
Oh, by the way, the bike wasn't pulled back a couple of feet, it was something called 'bouncing off' the Tahoe after impact....

I am sure I could have done somethings differently, but I don't know if I would if the situation occurs again.

Not to beat a dead horse, but yesterday while watching some sportbike racing in Europe there were several accidents. Three guys get tied up right off the back and the next two couldn't get around because of the other riders so they t-boned the ones already down... oops, my bad, the next two guys stopped as much as they could and then laid them down.... Then towards the end of the race and the back side of the track before the swooping S curves two riders side collide and the one on the outside gets forced off the track and right towards the bales of hay, so he ran right into them.... nope, he stayed on and controlled it as long as possible and then laid it down and slid into the hay.... I guess these guys need some learning!!