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Originally Posted by Spastik
Why dontcha let him take the lead? It may push him to go quicker and also let you see what mistakes he is making as a beginner. Helping him out with technique will make him better, safer, and faster
Why dontcha let him take the lead? It may push him to go quicker and also let you see what mistakes he is making as a beginner. Helping him out with technique will make him better, safer, and faster
POSTED BY PoorGuy
Exactly what crossed my mind when I was reading the thread.
OH true that,but when I let him lead ,and I want him to for the experience, he forgets I'm there! Sometimes I nearly run right up his butt because suddenly he's going slow without warning . I told you have to signal me if you turn or slow down and he says WHY? Last year it started rainng once so i stopped to get geared up-him in the lead- I caught right up , beeped him signaled him he just kept going. So I stop and and change gloves and put tape around my ankles and next thing he is just gone
Lucky he drives so slow I caught up ten minutes later,he didn't notice I was gone!
My own common sense is to let him go on the trip alone,but i would like to go,and don't have that many other freinds who ride.
Lucky he drives so slow I caught up ten minutes later,he didn't notice I was gone!
My own common sense is to let him go on the trip alone,but i would like to go,and don't have that many other freinds who ride.
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At 40 mph,it's going to take you 3 ten hour days to go 1200 miles,not counting gas/food/p stops.......leave Friday morning.!!!!!! Or like some-one said, maybe he should go alone. A friend of mine left for Sturgis on one of those Kaw.650 GS type bike with a bunch of Harleys and ended up blowing the thing up in Illinois.Food for thought!
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Like BobStreetBob posted. Take the trip because you want to. Agree where you plan to end the day and meet him there if he falls behind.
I normally ride alone but I have experienced a similar situation and I just rode at my desired pace and the other guy spotted my bike at a cafe at lunch time so we were together there and for awhile after and then the same thing happened and we joined up at a motel at the end of the day. Actually, it turned into a very enjoyable trip for both of us.
I normally ride alone but I have experienced a similar situation and I just rode at my desired pace and the other guy spotted my bike at a cafe at lunch time so we were together there and for awhile after and then the same thing happened and we joined up at a motel at the end of the day. Actually, it turned into a very enjoyable trip for both of us.
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I lost a ride buddy for just about the same reason! I still hang out with the same people but will not ride any distants with him after we rode to sturgis and back. Good guy, just ride style is different than mine. Just a little tension for this years ride with no invertation for him and his old lady. He keeps trying to invite himself! Other friends will have none of it.
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He isn't going to speed up even as he gains more experience.
You have described my friend and his riding style to a tee.
He is a timid rider and always remained that way. Finally got to the point where I wouldn't ride any distance with him. I used to pull over and have a cigarette once in a while and wait for him to roll up but after a few too many rides and too many waits, no more.
Bottom line is you're asking him to do something which is uncomfortable to him. Therefore possibly dangerous to him.
And he is asking you to do something uncomfortable and therefore possibly dangerous to you.
Plus, imho, it is just downright rude for one person to expect the other to have to ride at their speed. I don't like waiting (same as you) and he didn't like being pushed.
Don't take the ride if you value your friendship, as sooner or later one of you is going to say something the other won't like.
I have friends I enjoy golfing with, friends I enjoy hanging with, friends I enjoy travelling with. Only one do I enjoy doing all three things with.
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You have described my friend and his riding style to a tee.
He is a timid rider and always remained that way. Finally got to the point where I wouldn't ride any distance with him. I used to pull over and have a cigarette once in a while and wait for him to roll up but after a few too many rides and too many waits, no more.
Bottom line is you're asking him to do something which is uncomfortable to him. Therefore possibly dangerous to him.
And he is asking you to do something uncomfortable and therefore possibly dangerous to you.
Plus, imho, it is just downright rude for one person to expect the other to have to ride at their speed. I don't like waiting (same as you) and he didn't like being pushed.
Don't take the ride if you value your friendship, as sooner or later one of you is going to say something the other won't like.
I have friends I enjoy golfing with, friends I enjoy hanging with, friends I enjoy travelling with. Only one do I enjoy doing all three things with.
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First off, you two have mis-matched bikes. No way a Suzuki DRZ 400 is the hot ticket for cruising hiway speeds all day. While your HD is idling along at 60 MPH, if his DRZ is geared to be more adept in the woods... then at 60 MPH his bike is buzzing.
Sounds to me like you need to hang back and ride at his pace... or ride by yourself.
Sounds to me like you need to hang back and ride at his pace... or ride by yourself.
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Thank you one and all for confirming,criticiseing and supporting me It's been a philosophical learning day> I'm really glad not to be the only guy who knows someone who rides like that! I guess since I like to keep ahead of the stream and he'd rather have cars and trucks leave him eating dust, plus given our oppositely calibred (mismatched as LAming put it) bikes ,i shall have to turn him down and only accept shorter rides with him.
I sincerely do appreciate all the opinions and keep 'em coming as i wil re-visit this thread!
I sincerely do appreciate all the opinions and keep 'em coming as i wil re-visit this thread!