No Speed Wreck
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From: Texas! Ya mean there's someplace else?
I have given up caring whether someone wears a helmet or not. It would seem to be common sense to ride with one, but if the individual is not smart enough to put one on before they mount their bike let them be the cause of their own demise. I reckon, they will think about the consequences when their head is sliding along the asphalt.
Just when I thought ... ahh, never mind. Your sig line aside, you're a pompous ***.
Why not just leave it up to the individual to make the decision? I can go along with putting some limits on those who've yet to reach majority, but I'm really tired of the nanny-state syndrome. Y'all who seem bent on cradle-to-grave state sponsored babysitting can stick it where the sun has never shone. Y'all need to consider a mass move into the inner cities, and then maybe move onto mass suicide. Seems the bloodlines are getting a little weak.
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From: Joliet, Illinois
Helmet laws suck.
Seat belt laws suck.
The government trying to protect people from themselves, while they are engaged in certain, limited activities - while ignoring others - sucks and is moronic.
Lobbyists and minority special interest groups run this country.
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From: Texas! Ya mean there's someplace else?
Oddly enough, in spite of the fact that a majority of deaths in car accidents are due to head injuries, I believe it is illegal to wear a helmet while driving a car (In Illinois, at least).
Helmet laws suck.
Seat belt laws suck.
The government trying to protect people from themselves, while they are engaged in certain, limited activities - while ignoring others - sucks and is moronic.
Lobbyists and minority special interest groups run this country.
Helmet laws suck.
Seat belt laws suck.
The government trying to protect people from themselves, while they are engaged in certain, limited activities - while ignoring others - sucks and is moronic.
Lobbyists and minority special interest groups run this country.
Road Warrior
Joined: Feb 2009
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From: Kansas City Mo
I would have to look around but, I do believe it was a few years back that ABATE of Colorado had posted the information. There was shown no difference in death % in states with helmet laws and states without helmet laws. I know the State of KS. is a no helmet law state. I live in the state of MO. helmet law. Ks. had fewer bike fatalities last year 
. There also is no proof that helmets would save your life in the majority of atypical bike accidents that resulted in deaths (most bike accidents causing death involve car collision).
They are trying to repeal the helmet law here in MO. but, now this is what gets me. The medical profession is the one fighting this. Probably because they work hand in hand with the insurance cos.
I believe in freedom of choice. I would like the ability to choose is all. I would probably still wear my helmet on the freeways and back and forth to work.. but , out on a country ride with no one around on a hot day. I'd take it off just to enjoy the wind in my hair (what's left of it).
. There also is no proof that helmets would save your life in the majority of atypical bike accidents that resulted in deaths (most bike accidents causing death involve car collision). They are trying to repeal the helmet law here in MO. but, now this is what gets me. The medical profession is the one fighting this. Probably because they work hand in hand with the insurance cos.
I believe in freedom of choice. I would like the ability to choose is all. I would probably still wear my helmet on the freeways and back and forth to work.. but , out on a country ride with no one around on a hot day. I'd take it off just to enjoy the wind in my hair (what's left of it).
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2008
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From: Mesa, AZ
Yet another random post from one of our local helmet ****'s. Seriously, what's the point? Those that don't wear helmets don't start threads about all the people they saw wearing helmets over the weekend. These threads end up the same way. You guys get to feel smug and oh-so-much smarter than everyone, but other than that do you really think you're contributing anything?
If you're going to start these threads just go ahead and be the ******** you're going to turn into later in the thread. Don't start out claiming you support the right to choose, because you don't.
If you're going to start these threads just go ahead and be the ******** you're going to turn into later in the thread. Don't start out claiming you support the right to choose, because you don't.
Last edited by Bluegrasser; Jun 3, 2009 at 11:11 AM.
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Low Speed Kills!
Now for the other side of the coin. A few years back a guy I worked with who rode a BMW had one of those low speed accidents. Kibby rode a stock BMW which was the only bike he ever owned. He always wore full gear helmet, gloves etc. No one ever saw him so much as go over the speed limit. When the accident happen he was doing no more that 15mph as he followed vehicles through a construction zone. For whatever reason he didnt see a piece of concrete debris in the road and hit it with his front tire. He was thrown from the bike and hit the ground head first. His helmet didnt have so much as a scratch on it. From that time on he never regained full consciousness. He finally died 8 months after the accident.
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Joined: Apr 2009
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From: NEPA
Yep, it is rather odd that wearing a helmet is illegal in a car. Amazing that reasons often quoted are helmets impair hearing and peripheral vision. But in the end it is not about safety, and not even about control, but all about legislators kow-towing to those special interests so they can appear to be doing something, and thus hold onto their seats, and keep the POWER.
Kind of like seat belt laws for cars but yet school busses don't have them
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Worth, IL
First off, I am brand new to this forum, though I have been reading it for a while, so hello all. I thought I might clear up a bit of information on this thread. It was stated that there are no helmet laws in Kansas. Actually the only three states with NO helmet laws are IL, IA, and CO. Most other states actually have graduated helmet laws pertaining to young passengers and begining riders. I only mention this as it brings up a good point. Those laws are enacted and enforced mainly to protect children. This is valid as children aren't legally given the right to choose for themselves and are seen as needing protection as the grow older and learn about rights and responsibilities. This brings me to my point, and that is that we are not children. We are adults with the ability, and in some states, the right to choose whether we wear a helmet or not. This is an exercise of the freedoms which we hold dear. A freedom, that based on the demographics of this forum, a majority of members here fought for. (Thank you, BTW) Deciding to not whear a helmet when the pros and cons have been weighed isn't "stupid", its a choice, made by an adult.
The irony of helmets being illegal in cars becomes greater when you take into account the professional racers who need far more peripheral vision and hearing ability wear them in speeds in excess of 150MPH. Oh, and the fact that helmet saftey is sold to motorcyclists as not impeding either peripheral or hearing.
That being said, I wear a helmet on every ride. It makes me feel safer, but more importantly it makes my wife and family feel better.
Oh, yeah. . . another bit of irony is that you will often see me in a t-shirt and jeans on the bike with a helmet. I wonder if wirebrush baths and skin grafts are more painfull then death? Oh well.
The irony of helmets being illegal in cars becomes greater when you take into account the professional racers who need far more peripheral vision and hearing ability wear them in speeds in excess of 150MPH. Oh, and the fact that helmet saftey is sold to motorcyclists as not impeding either peripheral or hearing.
That being said, I wear a helmet on every ride. It makes me feel safer, but more importantly it makes my wife and family feel better.
Oh, yeah. . . another bit of irony is that you will often see me in a t-shirt and jeans on the bike with a helmet. I wonder if wirebrush baths and skin grafts are more painfull then death? Oh well.
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From: Missouri
glad to hear she wasn't hurt worse. Helmets are a good idea and do help a great deal. I have alot of friends that will still wear theirs if the helmet law changes here and I respect them for that. I plan on riding with them but without my helmet. I am not positive, but I think in almost all motorcycle fatalities in Mo this year the rider was wearing a helmet; so there are no guaranties.
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Joined: Jun 2009
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From: east texas
Yet another random post from one of our local helmet ****'s. Seriously, what's the point? Those that don't wear helmets don't start threads about all the people they saw wearing helmets over the weekend. These threads end up the same way. You guys get to feel smug and oh-so-much smarter than everyone, but other than that do you really think you're contributing anything?
If you're going to start these threads just go ahead and be the ******** you're going to turn into later in the thread. Don't start out claiming you support the right to choose, because you don't.
If you're going to start these threads just go ahead and be the ******** you're going to turn into later in the thread. Don't start out claiming you support the right to choose, because you don't.
steve