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For me, not enough. My first passenger was shorter and heavier than I was. They were stretching up to look over my shoulder, got uncomfortable with that after a while and shifted to look over the other shoulder. The end result is I almost changed lanes into oncoming traffic!!!
On one of the first rides with my wife on the back she started shifting around a bunch, including times when I was slowing down for a light. At one point I just pulled into a driveway and turned around to head back home. She asked what I was doing, and I told her that shifting around like that was dangerous. I may have overreacted in doing that instead of just stopping and talking to her about it. I did turn back around and continued on to where we were going.
She still shifts around a little when riding on the back, but at least does it less often now, and doesn't do it when I'm slowing down.
According to our little Ride Safe book here in Canada I read that you should have around 3200kms under your belt. Why that number...who cares. I have plenty of clicks.
I'm itchin to get the OL on the back. Unfortunately, I have a wee snag with the leather covered 2x4 they refer to as a pillion on my Deluxe.
Ok... so here's the skinny (you'll get the pun)... My OL ain't exactly the lightest bulb on the tree if you know what I mean. I don't know how I'm going to fair at the slow stuff. Right turns, Uturns... junk like that. But I love her madly and want her to experience the wind and fun of riding, so I figure the best place to start is at a parking lot and just get on with it.
I don't remember how many miles I had but rode solo for about 2 years straight, that made me around 9 or 10 years old before a passenger> Its about comfort.
I logged about a thousand miles this spring before I took my wife for a ride. It's a different feeling with a passenger and you need to really pay attention.
I took the MSF course and asked that question myself. I was told that I needed 3,000 under my seat or 1 year which ever came first. At 4K I put my wife on for the first time. While I probably could have done it sooner, I was glad I waited.
I probably had only about 1,000 miles of experience riding motorcycles when I took my wife for a spin. I have a sportster so the two person ride was very different.
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More importantly, it depends on the miles the passenger has under his/her belt as well. The rider has a little responsibility too. My wife is under $1.20, with a 700 lb bike and me weighing just under 200 I didn't figure I'd even feel her back there. She never rode and I instructed her pretty well but every now and again I feel her throw the bike. I correct her patiently so she'll want to continue to ride from time to time.
Just don't forget they are back there when stopping etc..
When i felt comfortable turning figure eights with the handlbars resting on the right and left stops - i let her on. my experience is along the same lines as poorguy's - my first legitemate ride with my wife was a result of her choosing the destination - i chose the transportation and route. We had only rode around the backroads onthe outskirts in mostly straight lines thus far. i had only given her one rule so far. if you put your feet down you had better plan on getting off! we took hwy 29S to Napa, CA - if you check a map it looks like your small intestine for a few miles. i kept feeling like i was having to muscle the bars and lean way farther than felt comfortable, i had to resort to going so slow that i was actually turning right to go right- i glanced in the reflection of the tank as i exited a corner (in first gear) and saw what appeared to be a two headed person - i gave her a little...pep talk shall we say...she said she was looking out for oncoming traffic and the drop off because she was afraid we were going over it. i told her the same thing i was told by my riding buddy on my first ride - to look where you want to go and we will go there. apparently she wanted to go off the OTHER side of the road now (typical!) for the next 10 minutes i so much as imagined a right turn and we were cutting right toward the shoulder. i waiited it out and she soon relaxed, stopped exaggerating her movements, and has been a dream ever since.
BTW - got a good laugh from dgator66's first experience
I want to say I did about five thousand before taking on a passenger. And I refused a lot of good looking women rides on my scoot's back then just because I wasn't comfortable riding with someone else on the back. Now my OL of two years is an awesome passenger back there, sometimes I have to look back there to see if she's still there.
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