Sobriety Checkpoints
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I hate pedophiles. Absolutely hate them with a passion and if they were all locked up in one little room stacked on top of each other until they died, that would be fine with me. I hate them so much in fact that if there is the chance that we could save the horrible, insidious, painful destruction of just one childs life, Id be willing to allow the cyber-police the opportunity to check the contents of my computer, as well as the websites Ive visited. Sound good?
Let them take one right away, and they will take another. Never had a DUI so Im NOT defending any drunk drivers. Just my viewpoint.
Let them take one right away, and they will take another. Never had a DUI so Im NOT defending any drunk drivers. Just my viewpoint.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated"
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From: Southern California High Desert, here and there....
Won't be long before the bastids require BAC breathalyzer ignition interlocks on cars, trucks, bikes. Not that there won't be inconvenient ways around those, but it is a slippery slope of encroachment. It's all about boiling the frog....
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Problem with your analogy is getting stopped at a checkpoint for a few seconds is not a violation of any right guaranteed by the US Constitution. Going through your personal and private communications is clearly a violation of the 4th Amendment
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated"
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated"
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From: Florence, MT (Bitterroot Valley)
Whew, I didn't see this one coming. With all the crap we put out about people driving drunk (Billy Lane comes to mind) I'm surprised at the reverberation from sobriety check points. They're posted with the times and locations. Two choices. Don't drink and drive there, or simply don't drink and drive. How hard is this?
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Since when is FEMA operating concentration camps? Anyone living in FEMA housing has the option of finding their own home. Dude you need to quit drinking the cool aid. And please remember that just because something can be found on line dosen't make it true. After all I'm still not rich from working at home with my computer.
FEMA, under Homeland Security, took bids from real estate and engineering firms to construct large scale internment camps. There is exact locations of many of them, and since when can you trust the government?
If I'm not mistaken, the 2nd amendment was put forth to control tyrannical governments, so they don't get out of hand. More and more freedom killing bills are passed through the house and senate as the years go on.
Since when has government been able to be trusted? Never, and our founding fathers knew it.
You can keep your eyes shut to these horrendous acts, but with every thing happening you can bet your *** the establishment has themselves backed up.
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Because they don't have a loved on that's been killed by a soccer mom running a red light.
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Great, they break the law to make sure we don't.
Where is the "Reasonable Suspicion" we are pulled over for?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Where is the "Reasonable Suspicion" we are pulled over for?
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Too bad the US Supreme Court opined many MANY years ago, that DUI Checkpoints are legal.
You are correct in your assertation that the above amendment also applies to vehicles, however.
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Well considering we have over 800 FEMA operated fully functional concentration camps, and others being renovated constantly. You can find the list of all the locations online. All it takes is one of 19 executive orders already inplace signed by the president, or him to suspend habeas corpus.
We think we have right? Japanese-Americans 1942 shows you all the right's we really have. In this day in age, we no longer have rights, we have granted privileges that we think are rights.
I have a feeling when push comes to shove, the core of American people will fight back.
We think we have right? Japanese-Americans 1942 shows you all the right's we really have. In this day in age, we no longer have rights, we have granted privileges that we think are rights.
I have a feeling when push comes to shove, the core of American people will fight back.
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Very constructive. Considering nothing in that post is related to Dr. Paul.
Sorry for being a non-interventionist, constitution abiding, sound money believing, individual liberty enjoying, free market thinker.
So what exactly makes him an idiot? The fact that he doesn't accept money from big corporations? That he is a war veteran, and has delivered over 4,000 babies while he was a practicing doctor? The fact the during the last campaign trail he recieved 49.5% of the money donated by those employed or retired from all branches of the US Military in the Republican party or that he led ALL candidates from both parties with over 1/4 of the money donated by the military branches? Wait, the same guy who was one of the only few to stand up to going into that mess of Iraq?
The fact that we are bankrupting ourselves and sparing our national security with 700 military bases around the world, troops in 130 countries, and all the propagranda?
Or is some kind of idiotic pandering just to your side because you think Sarah Palin is hot?
Sorry for being a non-interventionist, constitution abiding, sound money believing, individual liberty enjoying, free market thinker.
So what exactly makes him an idiot? The fact that he doesn't accept money from big corporations? That he is a war veteran, and has delivered over 4,000 babies while he was a practicing doctor? The fact the during the last campaign trail he recieved 49.5% of the money donated by those employed or retired from all branches of the US Military in the Republican party or that he led ALL candidates from both parties with over 1/4 of the money donated by the military branches? Wait, the same guy who was one of the only few to stand up to going into that mess of Iraq?
The fact that we are bankrupting ourselves and sparing our national security with 700 military bases around the world, troops in 130 countries, and all the propagranda?
Or is some kind of idiotic pandering just to your side because you think Sarah Palin is hot?
Last edited by Hooch jr; Jul 28, 2009 at 05:27 AM.
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From: BFE MI
I bet if the "Po-po" went in da hood and did reasonable searches, ya know, ridding society of drugs and illegal guns it wouldn't be acceptable. Juicy Jackson would be all over it. Wouldnt happen, "Just sayin."
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She was obviously a libertarian protesting the state's right to make her stop. Give the government an inch, they'll take a mile. Next they'll be charging a toll to drive on the road.