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I am afraid some important engine conponents may be Chinese made, have heard the crank is made in China but I hope someone will tell me I'm wrong on that.
The CNBC special last night mentioned at the end about Harley reporting the first losing quarter since 1993. ***** G and the kids are not the controlling interest in Harley anymore. The corporate business mentality will make decisions based purely on economic factors and more outsourcing will definitely be on the list.
The American Mystique and the Iconic Status of that American Brand will make that a risky decision for HD. I mean I have no emotional connection to my toaster as long as it works. I want my Harley built in America by American Workers and if this little survey is any indication most people feel the way I do.
I do want the brand to survive, who would have ever though mighty GM would ever file for bankruptsy. I know Harley will have tough decisions to make in tough times. I have received two surveys to fill out online since I bought by 2010 Harley. They are searching for answers, maybe this little survey will help!
The CNBC special last night mentioned at the end about Harley reporting the first losing quarter since 1993. ***** G and the kids are not the controlling interest in Harley anymore. The corporate business mentality will make decisions based purely on economic factors and more outsourcing will definitely be on the list.
The American Mystique and the Iconic Status of that American Brand will make that a risky decision for HD. I mean I have no emotional connection to my toaster as long as it works. I want my Harley built in America by American Workers and if this little survey is any indication most people feel the way I do.
I do want the brand to survive, who would have ever though mighty GM would ever file for bankruptsy. I know Harley will have tough decisions to make in tough times. I have received two surveys to fill out online since I bought by 2010 Harley. They are searching for answers, maybe this little survey will help!
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enough of the parts are already out sourced off shore as it is. They have also made cuts into the quality and longevity that Harley has traditionally been known for (production cranks in later twin cams as an example) in the name of cost savings but really at the cost of production jobs (automation versus human effort). Perhaps what they need to do at MOCO is consider cutting their executive compensation packages to lower overhead. Base the salary of management on performance. Sell bikes make money, slow sales cinch up the belt.
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I've never freeloaded off anyone, and I don't have a union-related retirement plan. But all of my friends that have them earned them by working hard at thankless jobs that required, for many years, mandantory overtime. I've earned all that I have, and you're darn right I'm proud. A paltry $1,000,000 bonus to a CEO could be 20 $50,000 union jobs making things here in America. $10 mil, 200 jobs, and so on. Yet are you clowns b!tching about that?
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Antiseptic little words like Outsourcing "there goes your job" and innocuous little phrase like "legacy cost" there goes your retirement and health care. Corporate media coins the little words and make them common place in the English Lanquage and acceptable as conditions of employment or trying to scratch out a living in this country.
Manufacturing being a dirty word even when the best years the economy ever had has when we manufactured to the world and those were also the years we had a balance or surplus of trade.
Corporate economist or CEO's and their lobbyist should not dominate the total conversation when it comes to our living conditions, wether we stay in the middle class or not or are pushed down into poverty just so they can run to the third world for cheap labor.
Divide and conquer, they like to get you arguing over union and non union, right to work state's, capitalism and socialism. They present a united front in the government with a powerful lobby to forward their interest. They do shape the class sysem and where your place will be in it. I don't think any one entity should have this kind of power over my life and weild this kind of power in a representative government.
The middle and working class is shrinking in direct proportion to the amount corporate lobbyist contol government. Such is life in a corpocracy!
Back to the main thread topic! Will Harley do the lemming march over the outsourcing cliff? Will you buy a Harley again if they do?
Manufacturing being a dirty word even when the best years the economy ever had has when we manufactured to the world and those were also the years we had a balance or surplus of trade.
Corporate economist or CEO's and their lobbyist should not dominate the total conversation when it comes to our living conditions, wether we stay in the middle class or not or are pushed down into poverty just so they can run to the third world for cheap labor.
Divide and conquer, they like to get you arguing over union and non union, right to work state's, capitalism and socialism. They present a united front in the government with a powerful lobby to forward their interest. They do shape the class sysem and where your place will be in it. I don't think any one entity should have this kind of power over my life and weild this kind of power in a representative government.
The middle and working class is shrinking in direct proportion to the amount corporate lobbyist contol government. Such is life in a corpocracy!
Back to the main thread topic! Will Harley do the lemming march over the outsourcing cliff? Will you buy a Harley again if they do?
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As for longevity... yeah, if you rebuild something over & over, it seems to last pretty long, but that's not because it was rock solid to begin with.
Harley has been building decent bikes for nearly two decades and are STILL trying to shake their past. Another fine example of why it's better to maintain your reputation than to screw up and try to fix it later.
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Back to the main thread topic! Will Harley do the lemming march over the outsourcing cliff? Will you buy a Harley again if they do?
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Then you should try the new electronic throttle Harley has went to on some models, they do some interesting things!
Just like Toyota if the throttle sticks you put the bike in neutral if you can find it and pull to the side of the road, "if you are not already part of it" and turn on your emergency blinker's.
That would be lay your half helmet down by your bike as a sign of distress!
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