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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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You are kidding, Right??


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I have shot tires on more than one semi A-hole. If your's have been shot, I'm the guy who did it.
 
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: sleepneagle

There are good drivers and bad drivers. I have shot tires on more than one semi A-hole. If your's have been shot, I'm the guy who did it.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Damn. In one thread we've got an idiot in an 80,000 pound missle swerving into people lanes beside them or riding their asses in a get out of my way fit of road rage, and another idiot wanting to shoot his tires.

Makes me scared as hell to leave the house in my cage, much less on the freakin' bike.
 
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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I'll put the shooter in the same class as the person that posted earlier about standing on overpasses with a brick.[:@]
 
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: Scotto

I did mention that I never tailgate before I mentioned my scedule, so I guess you must be the guy who holds people up just because you dont think I shouldnt take a break at the dock or eat. Really man. And yes, I am very professional as a driver.
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Sorry guys - but the "I've got a schedule to keep" excuse doesn't cut it.

Let's look at the numbers.

A mile is 5280 feet. At 60mph you're travelling 88 feet a minute.
Every time you have to slow down to let someone else in let's say it takes you 10 whole seconds. That would subtract 14.6 feet from the distance you travelled for that minute.

Even if you had to do this 200 times in a daily route schedule (which is a HUGE exageration) you would lose 2933.3 feet worth of travelling distance (a little over 1/2 a mile) in a total of 33.3 minutes.

200 (again, rediculously inflated number) slowdowns to allow you (and idiots on the road) to go home safely will cost you an extra 1/2 hour and a loss of 1/2 mile travelling distance.

I have guys that easily waste an hour of thier day BSing in the loadout areas, offices (mine included), food/drink stops, etc. To try and chalk up unsafe behavior as "a way to save time, or to keep schedule" is simply absurd.

If you run all local routes in heavy city traffic then the number will be worse than that. More "over the road" or long distance routes then you tend to go faster, cutting the number DOWN of time and miles travelled that it costs you.

Don't let bad behavior habits be an excuse. Roll on drivers, roll on. You're all more than a buncha' steering wheel holders. Don't forget it. You're professionals!
That's not even remotely close to what I'm referring to.

You mentioned having a schedule to keep. I took a safe behavior, inflated the consequences grossly and applied it to your response (so that you could see there's really little to NO actual consequence to performing your career safely). The hope was that you see some sense in what I'm saying. Instead you respond with the always ready "the man is just trying to hold us back" or some equivalent. Eat your lunch where ever you like driver - just get there without holding a grudge or acting like a road bully.

Do your choosen job the way it was meant to be done. If for no other reason than all the lawyers out there running commercials about "big truck accidents" you should want to. Trucking is an honorable profession - treat it as such.

If they don't give you the room, give them the room. At least that way the idiot is in front of you and you can keep an eye on them while they do what they do. If you have clear space, pass them. Don't encourage the idiot to perform a dazzling feat of their vehicle operating expertise that can end badly for you both.
 
Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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ORIGINAL: sctusa Like I said, I didn't think you would get it. (Nothing personal) The point is that people do speed up in the ending lane just to get ahead. And if traffic is heavy then they are cutting someone off or at least expect someone to let them in, and of course this has a domino effect and slows everything down.
I think we're on the same page and no, I didn't take it personal. It's a forum and I fight with my wife, I sure as hell won't agree with everyone on the internet...

It's all cool bud.

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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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It's arrogant to think people should give up their lane because you want it, and to drive at high speed so close that you need their third brakelight to keep an eye on. From the looks of things, you are a bully taking full advantage of peoples fear of fast moving semi's. I have seen truckers pull crap like that and as they go by, seen them laughing. What are you going to do when someone you tried to intimidate follows you to your next stop, drags you outta' your cab and stomps the crap right out of you? How cool will you be then?
Rule #2, There is no better proof of your arrogance and the fact you are a bully than this one. While it is true you are changing lanes for a reason, that reason would be because you think you are entitled to it. Because, if you are driving safely and have your vehicle under control, there is no "need" for it. Three blinks of your turn signal and you think the lane is yours?! Pffft... not even, my friend.
 
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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I am glad at least some people got the intention of the post. Yes..I really do go by these rules. Are they hard and fast?? Come on..give me a break. A little common sense here. A lot of you have a problem with the 3 blink rule. Do you really think I just slam into the next lane after 3 blinks even if there is a car there? All it takes is to slowly hug the line and the lane will open up. Not much of a big deal. Believe it or not I can actually tell you what a cager is going to do just by the type of vehicle, the person driving, type of plate (in or our of state). Not a mind reader at all...I have been doing this long enough to know and I am also looking farther ahead of you so I know whats going to happen before you do.

For those that say I should give up my CDL, I am to dangerous, My company should fire me..etc. I have been doing this for 14 years. Had 2 accidents. Both not at fault. 1st one already posted. 2nd one...was buttonhooking a right turn and a cager wouldnt wait and hit the trailer. Been yanked at a scale before just to get inspected. Only write up was air lines touching the cat-walk. Tickets in a semi??? 1 and that was just for seatbelt violation. Guess I must be doing something right.

Even though I drive the way I do I know whats going on all around my vehicle at all times. Its not like I just sit there and mash the gas oblivious to the outside world. I also know how much weight is on my trailer and how long it takes to stop. Maxed out or empty trailer will take longer to stop than vehicle with 20k lbs on the trailer. It plays a big part on how I drive.

Here is some things you wont see me do. I wont constantly change lanes just to get 2 seconds ahead (like cagers do), I wont cut across 3 lanes in one shot to get to an exit (like cagers do), I wont be talking on my cell,trying to eat and reading a map all at the same time (like cagers do).

Personnaly I am not even close to being the most dangerous out there. I think for a lot of people that have never driven its a perception thing. If a semi and car tangle up it usually is one hell of a mess even at moderate speeds. No doubt some are caused by the semi driver...but a majority are caused by the car.

OTR drivers are paid by the mile. So that means if the wheels are not turning you are not getting paid. The slower the wheels turn the less you get paid. I dont come to your work and stand in your way so you cant do your job so I would at least expect the same from you.

Not saying these rules apply to very driver (because they shouldnt) but they work for me.

I re-read my initial post and if you took it at face value without putting any thought into it I can really understand some of the responses it got.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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I like the rules now I have a question
why do people drive 80-90 mph on the freeway untill they
get to a truck then they slow down and drive along side of it for miles
until their 1 mph more speed lets them pass then back up to 80-90
really burn my but when i'm behind these people
 
Old Aug 1, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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I forgot to add that the 3 blink rule used to exist on the bayshore freeway south of frisco
for everybody turn it on 3 blinks and change lanes learned this from my older aunt
 



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