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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Yesterday after riding about 200 miles we stopped for lunch. When I got back on the bike turned the key on and pushed the start button, but the transmission was engaged, of course won't start, so I popped it in nutrel, pushed the start button again, started right up but idled about 3000 rpm for a few seconds then very rough idle. I even stalled it a couple of times when leaving. After going a few miles it started running normal and ran good the rest of the day. My question is, is possible for the ECM to temporarily loose its memory? Or what could cause this? 2007 FXDBI V.H. fuel pack, stage 1 air cleaner, V.H. Straight shots.
 
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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not possible for the ECM to have an issue, i've been told those never go bad.

anyway not an EFI guy but i do know computers and the ECM is a computer. a typical computer holds information in volitale RAM so needs a constant power source to maintain information in volatile RAM. on a computer mother board this power source is a CMOS battery so if your computer loses time and date or other critical information in the BIOS resets that is because of a bad CMOS battery.

i have no clue if this is how it works for an ECM, but i would wager it does and i would say it's definitely possible for the ECM to lose memory and critical setup information if the info in volitale RAM gets reset because it loses its power trickle.
 

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Did you fill it with fuel before the stop for lunch. It will expand and make it do weird things until it runs some out.
 
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sounds to me like it was hot..But it should have chilled out during lunch?I just stopped for gas the other day,shut down,pumped my gas and started the bike..It was idling faster than normal,but I just kept driving and no problems since..outside temp was over 100 so I just chalk it up to the heat..Fuel injected with all this ECM stuff just does weird **** sometimes..
 
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Sounds like an over full fuel tank or a bad TPS sensor. Does it want to die when you come to a stop after getting off the freeway or at a high speed. When you start her up cold does it idle way to high?
 
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I don't think it idles too high on cold start up, but did notice it wants to die now and then, especially after high speed or wide open throttle.
 
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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28 bucks for a tps sensor. It fixed mine and didnt set me back much for what its worth.
 
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Itch
sounds to me like it was hot..But it should have chilled out during lunch?I just stopped for gas the other day,shut down,pumped my gas and started the bike..It was idling faster than normal,but I just kept driving and no problems since..outside temp was over 100 so I just chalk it up to the heat..Fuel injected with all this ECM stuff just does weird **** sometimes..
yer not kidding.....I used to get between 350 and 400 kms per tank of fuel (217 to 248 miles)....

the last year and a bit I've noticed I'm only getting about 190 to 240 kms per tank (118 to 150 miles).

The only thing that has changed on my part is I ride alot slower than I used to....but I would have thought I'd get better mileage going slower not worse.

I can only surmise that it's something to do with the EFI...but no one seems to know what the deal is.
 
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My local Mech who jus recently completed the Factory sponsored Dyno school told me that more people were going to have problems with their factory ECM due to all the piggy back units on the market. Not that they didn't work, but they were going to cause problems with the factory module.
TPS sensor replacement is a good cheap start to a fix

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Normal computer memory is volatile, it'll get wiped every time you turn your computer off.

ECMs use a type of flash memory like EEPROM (Electrically Eraseable Programmable Read-Only Memory). It's non-volatile and it is flashable with a computer like a SERT.

Otherwise, you could hook up your fuelpak and reprogram the ECM right there on the bike. Or, if you ripped out your battery your ECM would take a dump.
 



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