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Softails engines are structural, i.e. they are rigid-mounted in order to provide torsional stiffness that is otherwise not present in that frame design. They added counterbalancers to smooth things out.
To para phrase Farber: softails have inferior frames as well.
I like my "B" motor. For what it is worth it shakes alot less than a Honda 1100VT I owned. I also like smooth...It's your money, go buy what you want, flip everyone else.
I should probably know the answer to this question but, can anyone tell me why the Softail has a balanced crank and the dyna is rubber mounted ?? I would prefer my Softy to be rubber mounted and have a bit of vibration to it than have it smooth and Jap like. Did HD balance the crank because of the suspension on the softy or what ????
You must have missed the thread with all the Dyna vibration complaints.
It is what it is. I for one don't know why anyone desires vibration. Vibration leads to fatigue for both the rider and the machine. Just curious has anyone ever removed the counterbalance from their B motor, is it even possible?
And I agree with 32vld. But damn man, take it easy, you have to realize that these guys are sensitive.
The heart of the matter is that the Evo Sloptails are engineered to last forever. The rubber-baby-buggy-mounted bikes, and the counter-balanced Sloptails are throw-aways. Twinkies have some good points, but rubber mounts that wear out and allow the drive train to shift in the frame, along with the cam tensioners that wear out, and the counterbalanced mechanical mess that robs power and also wears out, means long term higher maintenance costs. Besides, everyone knows rubber-mounted bikes and counterbalanced bikes are the real posers.
TIC, gentlemen, TIC.
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I've put this off long enough. Softails are the direct lineal descendants of the original hardtail frame. In the '50s, Harley got WAY off track when they built those butt-ugly shock frames. I remember when they came out and thought WTF??? Is that their answer for a smoother ride, which was baloney. A hardtail with a pogo-stick seat rode smoother. And if you look at a mid-50s hardtail Harley they look tiny compared to the giant-*** stuff that comes out of the factory these days.
The Softail frame was a brilliant idea to add enough flex so that the ride was more than decent. It keeps the looks of a Harley, unlike the swing arm frame. To my eyes, an FXST or Night Train is the pure essence of the original Harley-Davidson.
Now, about posers. I like all Harleys although I think those giant-*** tourers are not for me. They look too top heavy, but the sell a jillion, and the guys who make the payments love them. Dynas are slow sellers on NorCal but I sure think they look good.
I like my '03 FXST -- it is perfect for me. I had my first V-Twin in 1964 -- a '48 Indian Chief -- and my first Harley in 1968. Poser? Don't think so friend, but you are a either a troll or an *******. Your call...
Oh yeah, counter balancers. My Hayabusa has two of them. What you need when you are running 170 hp. out of 1300cc. Stock. You obviously know squat about engine architecture.
Power robber? Not as much as a fat wife on the ***** pillow...
Oh Yeah! My 1942 "45" had a huge, what we called back then, "buddy seat". With the springer front end, and the pogo, it really rode pretty well. That buddy seat was great for taking your favorite girl for a ride cause she had to sit up close and personal. No sissy bars then, they just had to hug and hang on. Ah, the memories.
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