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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 06:28 AM
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i think its a great idea .may actually save a few lives.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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MSF should be required, but a permit first?

Iowa is like the others, no permit required for MSF, and the course counts as the riding portion of the DOT test, just have to take the written. The course costs $125 here, but the local HD shops give you a $100 gift card for taking it.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by toastman
seems like a bit of a catch 22 to me...

need a permit to take the msf course, but now you need to take the course to get your permit?
MSF doesn't require a permit to take the course.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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It's the same in Florida.
And if your under 21 your tags says "under 21" on it. I think it definitely a good idea to have take the course first.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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I thought I remembered someone posted, you must have the permit prior to the course to get the driving test waiver?
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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In Illinois people under 18 are required to take the MSF class and pass the DMV test.
Over 18 and passing the MSF class will get a waiver for both written and ridden DMV tests.

When I was 16 there was no MSF class and we were restricted to bikes 150cc or less until age 18.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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In RI, you have to take the MSF course first (at the community college), then you get your permit, then your license.

Don't know the rules in TX
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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In Texas, anyone can take the MSF course. You never leave the parking lot, so no need to have a "permit" to take the course. They give you the road course evaluation at the very end, and if you pass you get a certificate to take to the DMV. It's a wavier for the DMV road test. All you have to do is pass the written test and you get your endorsement.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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In florida everybody has to take a rider course (includes written as well) to get a motorcycle endorsement...period
No learners permit
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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In Arizona there is no requirement to take the MSF course.

Those that do attend the course take the written and riding tests at the end of the course and receive a voucher to take to DMV to get their license.
 



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