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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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All this fuss about needing a permit first. LOL

Do you really think, that nobody in goverment already figured out a way to make it work?

"Oh my, gridlock" Everybody stuck going back and forth for permit and cycle class.
Nobody getting anywhere,..... he he!
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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good thing i dont have worry about this....
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Georgia gives you a full on license after taking the Riders Edge course
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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I can sort of see a reason for this. When I lived in CA I got pulled over on my Sporty. I had been riding about 15 years with no permit or license. I was pulled over about 4 blocks from the DMV. Cop (riding a cop Harley) actually told me that it would take about an hour to get a tow truck, and if I could show him at least a permit before it got there, he would not impound my bike for 30 days for driving without a license. I ran down and took the written test, failed by 1, then retook it right away and passed. Temp permit handed to me and walked back to the "speed trap" and showed the cop. I ended up taking traffic school for speeding. I took the riding test a week later and got my endorsement. Point is, it required no riding skills what so ever to obtain the permit which allows me to ride on the street. The only stipulation was no riding at night or on freeway.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PistonPuller
I can sort of see a reason for this. When I lived in CA I got pulled over on my Sporty. I had been riding about 15 years with no permit or license. I was pulled over about 4 blocks from the DMV. Cop (riding a cop Harley) actually told me that it would take about an hour to get a tow truck, and if I could show him at least a permit before it got there, he would not impound my bike for 30 days for driving without a license. I ran down and took the written test, failed by 1, then retook it right away and passed. Temp permit handed to me and walked back to the "speed trap" and showed the cop. I ended up taking traffic school for speeding. I took the riding test a week later and got my endorsement. Point is, it required no riding skills what so ever to obtain the permit which allows me to ride on the street. The only stipulation was no riding at night or on freeway.
Riding 15 years with no permit or license, cop pulls you over for speeding... he lets you go take the test to get your permit, and lets you off with just a speeding ticket? Man, I wish all cops were that cool!
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by QehQeh
Riding 15 years with no permit or license, cop pulls you over for speeding... he lets you go take the test to get your permit, and lets you off with just a speeding ticket? Man, I wish all cops were that cool!
Well I was attending school at the Maritime Academy in Vallejo and was in my khakis. Local cops were pretty cool to cadets. So that along with the Harley I think played a roll.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by brenn
MSF doesn't require a permit to take the course.
in NY they do, you gotta go into the DMV, take the written test to get your permit.

only with a valid driver's license and a valid MC permit can you take the MSF class.

thought that was the rule across the board, now i see i was wrong.

i agree the new cali law is a pretty good idea then.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Here in Ohio you have to have your temps to take the riding part of the course and it's right after the class room part so yeah you have to have your temps. Or you can just keep getting your temps every year if you pass the computer test LOL! I got my temps and a month later just went and passed the riding test and skipped the course.
 
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I took the MSF course here. It was on a closed course. (next to harley dealership).
Did not need permit. Took two nights of 4 hours each and 2 full days, Saturday and Sunday. There was also written test. If you pass, you can get your full MC endorsement.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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I was able to take the course without my permit.
 



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