Let The Checkpoints Begin...
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From: Blairsville GA
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So you have been through one of these MOC NHTSA funded checkpoints in the past year? The funding can be granted of any jurisdiction. I am sure in GA there are thousands. So its not just $70k for the state. The one set up at the FL border catching bikes heading to Daytona was ... nothing more than a quick cash grab. The NHTSA's Motorcycle Law Enforcement Demonstration Grants now total $30 million. (A letter I got from David Strickland of NHTSA 11/2/2010 detailed this and said it was a few states) Georgia might well be a test state.
I am NOT for federal regulation of motorcycling.
Just my opinion and we'll respectfully disagree... shaking my head.
So you have been through one of these MOC NHTSA funded checkpoints in the past year? The funding can be granted of any jurisdiction. I am sure in GA there are thousands. So its not just $70k for the state. The one set up at the FL border catching bikes heading to Daytona was ... nothing more than a quick cash grab. The NHTSA's Motorcycle Law Enforcement Demonstration Grants now total $30 million. (A letter I got from David Strickland of NHTSA 11/2/2010 detailed this and said it was a few states) Georgia might well be a test state.
I am NOT for federal regulation of motorcycling.
Just my opinion and we'll respectfully disagree... shaking my head.
You haven't seen any of these checkpoints now have you? You especially haven't seen any of the checkpoints that the OP mentioned in Union county. This is a tourist area that attracts many, many visitors. More than should be are killed or seriously injured because of their own actions i.e. poor driving skills. Unfortunately just being a bad driver isn't against the law, but being an unlicensed one is. The State Police run check points at various times of the year (like before the first big summer Holiday) to check licenses and insurance. They also run DUI checkpoints on New Years Eve. I have been through many of these checkpoints. As I said they check all vehicles in my experience.
There are always going to be people looking for a reason to be offended or outraged. This shouldn't be one of them, but if it is at least this information has given you warning so you can avoid North Georgia.
On this at least we will have to respectfully disagree.
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From: USA
From your vantage point in Texas I don't understand how you can get so worked up over something you haven't the slightest idea about.
You haven't seen any of these checkpoints now have you? You especially haven't seen any of the checkpoints that the OP mentioned in Union county. This is a tourist area that attracts many, many visitors. More than should be are killed or seriously injured because of their own actions i.e. poor driving skills. Unfortunately just being a bad driver isn't against the law, but being an unlicensed one is. The State Police run check points at various times of the year (like before the first big summer Holiday) to check licenses and insurance. They also run DUI checkpoints on New Years Eve. I have been through many of these checkpoints. As I said they check all vehicles in my experience.
There are always going to be people looking for a reason to be offended or outraged. This shouldn't be one of them, but if it is at least this information has given you warning so you can avoid North Georgia.
On this at least we will have to respectfully disagree.
You haven't seen any of these checkpoints now have you? You especially haven't seen any of the checkpoints that the OP mentioned in Union county. This is a tourist area that attracts many, many visitors. More than should be are killed or seriously injured because of their own actions i.e. poor driving skills. Unfortunately just being a bad driver isn't against the law, but being an unlicensed one is. The State Police run check points at various times of the year (like before the first big summer Holiday) to check licenses and insurance. They also run DUI checkpoints on New Years Eve. I have been through many of these checkpoints. As I said they check all vehicles in my experience.
There are always going to be people looking for a reason to be offended or outraged. This shouldn't be one of them, but if it is at least this information has given you warning so you can avoid North Georgia.
On this at least we will have to respectfully disagree.
I have experienced checkpoints here in Texas. Maybe only 3 that were not Fed Immigration checks. Each were for ALL vehicles. They were not discriminatory. Sobriety checkpoints are not uncommon here nor are they selective, everyone is stopped.
I just don't want our government regulating motorcycle transportation. Not in Ga, not in Ca , not in Tx, nada.
We disagree.
What happens in Georgia is of interest to me.
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From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Well from reading this and several other recent threads I guess Cal doesn't suck near as bad anymore , thanks peeps I needed that . 
Last edited by TwiZted Biker; May 23, 2011 at 01:43 AM.
From your vantage point in Texas I don't understand how you can get so worked up over something you haven't the slightest idea about.
You haven't seen any of these checkpoints now have you? You especially haven't seen any of the checkpoints that the OP mentioned in Union county. This is a tourist area that attracts many, many visitors. More than should be are killed or seriously injured because of their own actions i.e. poor driving skills. Unfortunately just being a bad driver isn't against the law, but being an unlicensed one is. The State Police run check points at various times of the year (like before the first big summer Holiday) to check licenses and insurance. They also run DUI checkpoints on New Years Eve. I have been through many of these checkpoints. As I said they check all vehicles in my experience.
There are always going to be people looking for a reason to be offended or outraged. This shouldn't be one of them, but if it is at least this information has given you warning so you can avoid North Georgia.
On this at least we will have to respectfully disagree.
You haven't seen any of these checkpoints now have you? You especially haven't seen any of the checkpoints that the OP mentioned in Union county. This is a tourist area that attracts many, many visitors. More than should be are killed or seriously injured because of their own actions i.e. poor driving skills. Unfortunately just being a bad driver isn't against the law, but being an unlicensed one is. The State Police run check points at various times of the year (like before the first big summer Holiday) to check licenses and insurance. They also run DUI checkpoints on New Years Eve. I have been through many of these checkpoints. As I said they check all vehicles in my experience.
There are always going to be people looking for a reason to be offended or outraged. This shouldn't be one of them, but if it is at least this information has given you warning so you can avoid North Georgia.
On this at least we will have to respectfully disagree.
Last edited by vet767; May 22, 2011 at 10:30 PM.
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From: NC
It's called probable cause. My scooters have current plates, I am wearing my helmet in the states that require it, I am not driving erratically. There is a presumption of innocence in this country, or at least I thought so,but apparantly it does not matter to some. You pull me over you better tell me why and then issue a ticket if not, **** you cause you ain't gettin squat, and if that lands me in jail, so be it. If you are pulling everyone over for a "safety check, fine, but my license, (or lack thereof), my insurance and/or my registration aint none your damn business and has nuthin to do with SAFETY.
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From: SE Michigan
It is a violation of the 4th Amendment; "Persons shall be secure in their homes and persons from unreasonable search and seizure." In other words they need "probable cause" to stop you. Just because some Judge says check points are "legal" doesn't make it so.
Judges have become "agents of the government" by rubber stamping Unconstitutional laws. We are seeing the rapid erosion of our Liberties in the name of "safety" and security".
Saw a clip on You Tube where the Tennessee cops are pulling over cars and just taking any cash you have on you. They took 4K from an old lady who just carried her cash with her. Meanwhile the northbound side of the highway had all the drugs going by and only about 1 in 10 stops were made on that side.
Judges have become "agents of the government" by rubber stamping Unconstitutional laws. We are seeing the rapid erosion of our Liberties in the name of "safety" and security".
Saw a clip on You Tube where the Tennessee cops are pulling over cars and just taking any cash you have on you. They took 4K from an old lady who just carried her cash with her. Meanwhile the northbound side of the highway had all the drugs going by and only about 1 in 10 stops were made on that side.
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From: Maine
Here is a link about H.R. 904 - motorcycle only checkpoints. The object of this house resolution is to ban the funding of MC only checkpoints by the secretary of transportation. This HR is in commitee now and this is where decisions are made in a mysterious manner. Lets hope it passes commitee unanimously. Then it has a chance to pass in vote in the house. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-904
Though this is in commitee, Reps can still sign on as co-sponsors. So, you can write your US Rep and ask them to sign on as a co-sponsor supporting H.R. 904.
And to quote "The MRF urges you to contact your Representatives and ask them to co-sponsor H.R. 904. You can reach your Representative through the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121"
Though this is in commitee, Reps can still sign on as co-sponsors. So, you can write your US Rep and ask them to sign on as a co-sponsor supporting H.R. 904.
And to quote "The MRF urges you to contact your Representatives and ask them to co-sponsor H.R. 904. You can reach your Representative through the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121"
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