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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesee
15 years dirt experience going "all out all the time as fast as you can".
On a high center of gravity dirt bike doing 70+ mph and up 100 mph on uncertain terrain and you are worried about a Harley.

Now you are asking taking a MSF course and talking about tooling around town until you are comfortable?
If I ever came close to doing 100 I can assure you I would be dead as most Mx riders would be that would be plain stupidity I never claimed that you assumed that. Yes I am going to take the course because I will save $$ on my insurance, I don't have to deal with a DMV instructor who thinks he's gods gift. Yes I'm gonna toole around town first, on dirt u don't have to deal with traffic, idiot people txting while driving and I have 2 children to think about now.....is that enough for you?
 

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Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Sorry. I don't get it.
I grew up on dirt and anyone that has ridden for 15 years on dirt is typically not afraid of any other bike. And, any dirt bike over 125 cc's will exceed 70 mph.
 
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesee
Sorry. I don't get it.
I grew up on dirt and anyone that has ridden for 15 years on dirt is typically not afraid of any other bike. And, any dirt bike over 125 cc's will exceed 70 mph.
that 15 yrs of riding dirt was 10 yrs ago....Im not affraid i never said i was. im just a little more aware now that i have kids and all the usuals that go along with that. This isnt gonna be a "fly by night" thing for me. I plan on being in this for the long hall.
 
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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I think you just answered your own question then.

If you are that uncomfortable, you should look for a small throw-away bike to learn on not a 500 pound cruising bike..
 
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonesee
I think you just answered your own question then.

If you are that uncomfortable, you should look for a small throw-away bike to learn on not a 500 pound cruising bike..
I think I may be right jonesee! Thank you!
 
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I think I may be right jonesee! Thank you!
Ooops.....you may be right
 
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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I've never understood the "learn on a tiny bike, then you'll be able to handle something bigger" state of mind.

I've ridden dirt bikes, enduro bikes, street bikes, and cruisers. The cruisers are a bit different, and require learning how to ride a bike that you can't toss around like a BMX bicycle.

Get the bike you want. You already know how to ride a bike. You can't learn to ride a big bike effectively by riding something you can toss around.

You can practice your skills more effectively by practicing on the bike you plan to ride.

All that said, if you're looking to buy a Dyna, no worries. The FX bikes have always handled just fine. You just need to get comfortable with the bike you buy, regardless of what you've ridden in the past.
 
Old Jul 4, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobber775
For a rider new to the road would it be more practical to start out on a "beginner" bike or just go for what I want?
Virtually every new rider drops their bike a few times. It's very normal and does not usually involve even minor injury if your dressed for it but it will scuff up a bike that does not have some form of tip over protection like engine guards, frame sliders, etc. In reference to parking lot drills and practicing similar practice maneuvers - IMO if you are not pushing yourself hard enough to occasionally fail, your not pushing yourself hard enough to really learn. This is not to say anyone should drive reclassly or practice risky manuevers on the street in traffic, just that the practice of sharp turns, low speed maneuvering in tight quarters, exploring the cornering limits of a bike, trail braking, avoidance maneuvers, etc. in a safe environment like a parking lot often results in a few spills. It's better to find out how far your bike will lean in a turn in a parking lot, and get comfortable with it, riding circles than discover it for the first time in a decreasing radius turn on a public road in traffic.

I know this is a HD forum, and so lots of people will say buy an expensive HD, but If it was me I would buy a used bike I could trade down the road (like say a vulcan 500, sv650, ninja 500, etc.) to learn on that you are not afraid to add a few scratches to. There is also the likely hood your preferences for what you want in a motorcycle will change significantly once you have gained some riding experience. It is hard to appreciate things like cornering traits, ergonomics, stability, highway manners, and suspension quality (a really important factor for most serious riders) until you have ridden a while and ridden lots of different motorcycles. Until you've ridden you won't know what traits are important to you. When it does come time to buy the bike you want, you will be a lot smarter and more educated buyer and be able to make better buying decisions for yourself. IMO buying a bike based solely on what it looks like and how it feels to sit on in the showroom is not a good way to buy a bike.

As a third factor riders learn faster and better when they can ride without the fear of having a heavy, pristine bike fall over or crash.

http://www.bestbeginnermotorcycles.com/
 

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hello

i had a 80cc dirt bike when i was 13yrs old, im 33 now and just bought my next bike ... 2004 Heritage Classic

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