Road Rash Kills
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From: Potsdam, NY
Any open wound causes blood loss. More severe road rash can kill you if it takes the ambulance 30min or more to find you.
IDK, i wiped out enough on my bike at comparatively slow speeds as a kid to know there is nothing more painful than even minor road rash. That's why I ride with gear.
IDK, i wiped out enough on my bike at comparatively slow speeds as a kid to know there is nothing more painful than even minor road rash. That's why I ride with gear.
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From: Republic of Texas
You really don't know the system we call medical care. It is a broken system and it is still broken. The only thing that would have taken care of the guy is money or patience. It isn't about saving lives, helping people, or compassion----it is just like the court system---dollars---you get what you can afford. I watch people work the system and I watch people suffer from not knowing how to work the system. He could have worked the system and probably survived but you have to work the system. I have lost two friends this year from them walking out of the emergency room without getting health care over their impatience and the cost. One of them I specifically warned about ARDS several months before and how it was killing people. He was walking at the first of the week and cold before the week was done.
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From: Boynton Beach, FL
I work in Healthcare finance and I'm disgusted. Have a friend who was a short order cook; cut his finger while working with raw chicken. When I saw it, I went ape ****; he was clearly exhibiting signs of septicemia and needed to be on the strongest of antibiotics immediately. Standard of care would have been to admit him for observation and administer the very potent Vancomycin IV. In fact, upon initial presentation in the ER, they prepared a wheel chair with an IV to admit him. But when they found out he didn't have insurance, they wrote him a prescription for antibiotics and discharged him. I believe this to be soooo wrong. That being said, he recovered just fine as an outpatient with RX, so you can argue he was treated effectively and efficiently (cost effective).
We do not like to use the word, but healthcare is rationed in the US, but it's rationed subjectively rather than objectively. Until we admit this, there is no way to establish appropriate priorities to both effectively and rationally allocate appropriate money for care in the U.S. Cheers, Kevin.
We do not like to use the word, but healthcare is rationed in the US, but it's rationed subjectively rather than objectively. Until we admit this, there is no way to establish appropriate priorities to both effectively and rationally allocate appropriate money for care in the U.S. Cheers, Kevin.
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Yep, bumped my shin on the mid-peg during a little mishap and got a small scrape. it didn't even bleed... I paid it no mind. By the late afternoon the area was swollen and very red. Went to the emergency room 2 days later and had to spend the night there on anti-biotics after they drained the wound. It seems it not bleeding was a bad thing and it got infected.
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From: Florida
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From: Potsdam, NY
I live in a country where we have universal health care. That means everyone has access to heath care on the same level as you would in the US with health insurance but we pay for our health care out of tax dollars instead of insurance company contributions. Yeah, you pay slightly higher taxes in this system but that portion is less than what you would pay to a health insurance provider. It's not perfect, sometimes there are waits to see a specialist for a non critical procedure, and it does not pay for prescription drugs, but over all everyone gets treated the best way possible and it works pretty well due to the efficiencies it allows. You also do not loose coverage if you loose your job or are elderly and no one looses their home over health care expenses. Another benefit of universal health care is increased life expectancy for those who do not have insurance. The average life expentency in Canada is 81.2 years, the average life expectancy in the US is 78.1 years.
When you remove the portion of health care dollars going to profits for the insurance companies, all the additional billing and accounting overhead required, and private hospitals taking their cut the cost per person for health care goes down 50% or more. I don't understand why so many people are against universal health care in the US?
When you remove the portion of health care dollars going to profits for the insurance companies, all the additional billing and accounting overhead required, and private hospitals taking their cut the cost per person for health care goes down 50% or more. I don't understand why so many people are against universal health care in the US?
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