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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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No but a tire that gets 25K is great, unless you're paying 33% more for it, ya know?
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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It's got to be hard as a rock. I'll be amazed if the tire proves to be a competent handler. If it is, fantastic, they have created the perfect tire.
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Kind of puts the boot to the opinion that Dunlop and others have been doing everything they can to come up with a tire that will wear comparable to a car tire...
Wonder how long it will take them now?
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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Look interesting, But I will stay with my Dulops, so far 16,000 miles on my rear and still counting.
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by frenchbiker
No info on price. The 180/65-16 American Elite is now listed at $177 on Jake Wilson's website. It was listed at $152 a few months ago.
I don't expect Michelin to be cheaper than Dunlop so who knows what the price will be.
That price seams high for a bias ply, radial?, saw the Elite III's at leatherup.com for about $147
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by inswva
It's got to be hard as a rock. I'll be amazed if the tire proves to be a competent handler. If it is, fantastic, they have created the perfect tire.

If it's like Michelin high mileage car tires it will be like riding on ice skates.
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by will2002
I would be happy to get 1/2 of that 25,000 miles on a rear tire!
keep the tires inflated to the manufacturer's recomended pressure. was told from a Metzeler tech that for every pound a tire is underinflated it loses 1000 miles in life expectancy, so if the sidewall states 40 psi front and 50 psi rear then that is what pressure you keep your tires, you should be seeing better mileage out of them.
 
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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In general, long lasting and good traction on wet roads are mutually exclusive. Softer rubber grips better but wears out faster. Harder rubber lasts longer but doesn't grip as well as soft rubber.

I like Avon tires. They cost more AND they wear out faster, but they grip the road like no other tire I've ridden on.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by checkers
That price seams high for a bias ply, radial?, saw the Elite III's at leatherup.com for about $147
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It's a bias ply but it's a 180/65-16. The E3 that you saw at $147 at leatherup.com is a MU90 or MT90 aka 130 or 140, not a 180.
 
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Originally Posted by Red9
Kind of puts the boot to the opinion that Dunlop and others have been doing everything they can to come up with a tire that will wear comparable to a car tire...
Wonder how long it will take them now?
Dipshit Tires ( Dunlap ) has been doing exactly what it wanted to do if you think about . Why would you as a huge volume supplier with a huge very brainwashed brand dependent client base like harley owners want to design and market a product with a longer life span ? You would be cutting your own profits throat wouldn't you by selling fewer tires ?
 



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